Review & Video: Gemini CDMP-7000

Review Summary:

The CDMP-7000 should appeal the most to mobile DJs, to CD timecode DJs who want a decently priced practice system for home, and to DJs coming from analogue who want something that feels more familiar than modern 100% digital DJ controllers. For home DJs with club aspirations, it's an excellent a bridge between bedroom DJing and club.

CDMP-7000
  • CDMP-7000
  • Rating: 4
  • From: Gemini
  • Price: $583
  • Reviewed by:
  • On December 14, 2012
  • Last modified:November 20, 2014
Gemini CDMP-7000

The Gemini CDMP-7000 offers a mix of CD, USB, SD and Midi controller DJing, all in one unit. For DVS DJs, mobile DJs, or home DJs wanting to practise on gear that's more like club gear than your usual DJ controller, it's got a lot to offer.

Review: Gemini CDMP-7000

The Gemini CDMP-7000 Professional Media Workstation is a substantially sized two-decks-and-a-mixer controller containing two fully featured media players (CDs, USB, SD card and Midi control), plus built-in audio interfaces, and a three-channel analogue mixer.

With features to appeal to mobile DJs, DVS DJs, and home DJs who want a controller they can DJ CDJ-style on as well as using computer software, it certainly seems to offer excellent value for money. In this Gemini CDMP-7000 review and talkthrough video, we'll assess how well it performs, so you can decide if it's for you.

First impressions and setting up

The unit is big, bold and workmanlike, with a metal chassis, and hardwearing black plastic casing elsewhere. It feels industrial rather than "home", and style-wise bears a lot more in common with pro DJ booth equipment (read: Pioneer) than most consumer DJ controllers. Its appearance is more or less that of two CDJ media players and a small mixer, stuck together. Not surprising, because apart from the case joining it all up and the shared power supply, that's exactly what it is.

CDJ-700

The Gemini CDJ-700 is a good budget media player, that gives you a lot for your money, which now makes a reappearance as part of the CDMP-7000.

The CDJ media players are to all intents and purpose exactly the same as the Gemini CDJ-700s (read our Gemini CDJ-700 review here) - good value CDJ-style players that can handle all kinds of media as well as control Midi software (Traktor, Virtual DJ etc.) and act as audio interfaces for that software too. Indeed the only control that isn't Midi-mappable is the jogwheel adjust, which is a purely mechanical resistance knob.

If you want to know more about them, go and read the CDJ-700 review; we cover what they're like to use a little further down in this review, but suffice to say here that we think they're great if you want a more authentic "club feel" in your home gear, because they're so similar to Pioneer CDJs. The colour touchscreen is cute but ultimately a bit gimmicky, and the effects are so-so, but overall as standalone players we liked them, and in their incarnation as part of this system, they're generously featured and work well.

The middle section of the CDMP-7000 is the three-channel analogue mixer. Analogue means that it is not digital in any way - it takes audio, not digital, inputs from the CDJs, from external sources or from your computer (because the CDJ audio interfaces handle the computer sound). The mixer is also not Midi enabled, so it can't control mixer functions on your DJ software. That means you use it with DJ software in "external" mode, the software acting as library and decks, but the Gemini hardware acting as your mixer.

This method of DJing has its pros and cons, but it works; DVS users DJ in this way by default, and many DJs prefer analogue mixers for the way they sound and the ease of mixing in external sources. This one has a twist in its tail: A USB out for recording your mix straight to PC to save needless digital to analogue and back to digital conversion.

There are two microphone inputs: A combi mic on the back and a 1/4" TRS on the front, where you'll find a full gamut of mic controls - on/off/talkover button, volume, and two-band EQ. Also on the front on a recessed control panel is a booth monitor volume knob and a pair of headphones sockets (1/8" and 1/4").

CDMP-7000 mixer

The mixer, though basic, contains a lot of 'club' features that you don't normally find on DJ controller mixers, such as proper headphones cue split, record out, and full VU metering of all channels plus master.

The mixer itself is three channel, and is equipped with the feature set of a basic club mixer rather than that of your average DJ controller equivalent. That means that as well as the full expected range of inputs and outputs (the aformentioned mics, plus dual line/phono, two aux ins, and master/booth/record outs including XLR), it has additional welcome features.

These include proper, full VU monitoring (a meter per channel, plus stereo output metering); true mono split for the headphones; and both crossfader curve and reverse switches. An extra channel would have been nice to save cramming so much into the three-way channel matrix controls above each line, but overall, it's got all you need for DJing with the unit in a wide variety of ways.

Setting up for software DJing involves installing your DJ software of choice (none is supplied) along with a mapping, then setting the Midi and audio configuration up correctly. This could trip you up if you're not used to doing these things, because these kinds of things still trip up beginners even after 10 years of DJ controllers being out there, but also because this being two separate CDJs, you need to configure them separately. However, there are reasonably clear guides for both Traktor and Virtual DJ on the Gemini website. With Virtual DJ you have to copy a few files across (device and mapping), with Traktor you import the .tsi from the software's config screen.

The unit is sold as "class compliant" which means it shouldn't need audio drivers, but the instructions tell you to install the Gemini audio driver for PC, which makes sense as the point of custom drivers is to get performance above what's possible with Windows drivers. No drivers needed for Mac, of course.

In use

DJing with software
First we tested the unit with Traktor and Virtual DJ, in order to see how well the jogwheels work and how responsive the controls are for Midi.

With Virtual DJ, especially with the HID mapping which is superior to the also-supplied Midi mapping, jogwheel performance was pretty good, and overall response from the controls was tight. There was also the added advantage of track info on the CDJ screens, something you don't get with Traktor.

With Traktor, jogwheel performance was also good but not excellent - as it is for most controllers with Traktor apart from Traktor's own and some HID-mapped high-end Pioneers. With both pieces of software, the jog performance is fine for cueing, but you wouldn't want to scratch on it.

Virtual DJ sound setup

Setting the audio configuration in Virtual DJ. Note that we're in 'external mixer' mode; the CDMP-7000 when used with software bypasses any software's internal mixer completely, using its own analogue mixer instead.

Apart from that, the Traktor mapping - like the Virtual DJ one - covers the transport basics well enough, but just be aware that as mentioned above, you don't get to control the mixer in either or any DJ program, because the CDMP-7000s mixer is analogue and not Midi-enabled. Note that in Midi mode, effects are mapped to your software's effects - you're not using those built in to the CDMP-7000. Although in theory it's perfectly possible to map the touchscreen to your software, but out of the box when you're using Midi mode none of the mappings does this for you.

The pitch control, assuming your software is set to the lowest possible pitch range, easily manages 1/100th of a BPM control, which is very good for manual beatmatching - just as well, as there's no sync button (although you could map it, or tap it on the computer screen if you wanted).

Using CDs/USB/SD card
It takes a few seconds to switch modes, but once you've switched successfully to CD mode, you get waveforms, track timings and a wealth of other information on the touchscreen. The browser search knob now switches from software control to letting you navigate tracks on a CD, or (using button control too), navigate libraries on USB/SD card.

Also, now you get to use the built in FX, of which those that use jogwheel as a control are better than the "fixed" ones that don't. You may find yourself using the filter and flanger, but the rest are take-it-or-leave-it. In particular I struggled to get any beatmatched goodness out of the echo. Again, just like with software, the pitch control is very good (not quite as good as software I didn't think, achieving for me 1/50th of a BPM control) - but now you get much tighter jogwheel control than with software, as well as start/stop speed controls and a "slip" mode, just like on Pioneer, Denon and indeed now Traktor products. As CD decks, these are pretty good and they're very cost effective in this package.

Switching from Midi to non-Midi in a set
It is possible to DJ a set using multiple sources, as you can chop and change as you wish. For instance, you could switch from Midi to CD, or play a track off a friend's USB drive (or I guess even from a smartphone via USB in certain circumstance, although we didn't check that), in addition to having your computer software plugged in.

Virtual DJ CDMP-7000

In Virtual DJ you have to go through all of this config every time you switch away from Midi controller mode and back again on one of the CDJs, which is tedious.

The way this works is different in the two programs we tested it with, Traktor and Virtual DJ. With Virtual DJ, when you switch away from Midi on one of the CDJs, Virtual DJ keeps playing the track but "forgets" all your audio settings, reverting to using your computer's internal sound card, which is a little annoying. It then doesn't switch back to CDMP-7000 audio when you switch back to Midi on the CDJ, so you have to manually reconfigure it, which is even more annoying. You won't want to be doing this in public.

With Traktor, as soon as you switch away from Midi, Traktor stops playing and informs you there's no audio device connected, but when you switch back, after a few seconds everything takes up where you left off. This is preferable, though not perfect; from a user point of view, being able to switch smoothly and easily from one to the other and back again with everything still playing in the background would be best. However - and it's a big however - you can have one deck on Midi and one on CD, USB etc. In this case, you do get that instant, smooth switch between the two. Better than nothing, for sure, but really you should think of this as a unit you DJ with software or USB/CD/SD card, but not all together in the same set, especially if you're planning onusing it with Virtual DJ.

Other ways to use the CDMP-7000

For this section of our CDMP-7000 review, we'll look at how else the unit may be used. Indeed, the CDMP-7000 really comes into its own when you start to consider how flexible it is. This is something that equally is going to confuse people who aren't sure what they're buying - but assuming you're potentially going to want some of this flexibility, it's a strength, not a weakness. For instance:

  • It has individual CD outs. That means you can use it with Traktor Scratch Pro or Serato Scratch Live as a DVS. Because it's Midi, it can be a true hybrid unit, with Midi control over your software as well as transport control, and all the advantages of using timecode for truly tight scratching etc. If you use DVS in the clubs, this means to CDMP-7000 would make a great home unit on a budget
  • It has true external inputs, meaning you can plug decks, other CDJs, other DJ controllers, MP3 players (one of the Aux inputs is an 1/8" TRS) plus two microphones in for maximum flexibility. This would be great, therefore, for mobile DJs or indeed for this to be used as a "house" unit in a bar or similar where there are different DJs requiring different set-ups
  • It has the ability to record straight to PC and monitor that recording back to the unit
  • The CDJs have digital outs, so you can use them as high quality CDJs with another digital mixer if you like, bypassing the internal audio interface should you wish

Coupled with the fact that you can use one deck digitally and one analogue - meaning at the very least easy DJ changeovers from a CD/USB guy to a digital guy - and it becomes apparent that what the CDMP-7000 loses in ease of initial comprehension and understanding, it ultimately gains in flexibility.

Conclusion

This unit is "of a type" - and that "type" is a pair of CDJs and an analogue mixer in a single box. It's important to think of it as such, because if you think you're buying a full Midi controller with a Midi mixer, you'll be misleading yourself.

As you may have gleaned from the list above, this actually needn't be an issue. Indeed, many people prefer using software as a library/decks rather than the full shebang, and enjoy having an old-school analogue mixer sat in the centre, feeling not only that sometimes such mixers can sound better, but that they make more sense when your DJing involves a mixture of digital and non-digital sources.

CDMP-7000 review

For home DJs with club aspirations, it’s an excellent a bridge between home DJing and club DJ booth.

The CDJ sections represent great for the money, and have a lot of decent features. While not up there with the top Pioneer CDJs (no networking, only basic two-way HID and then only with Virtual DJ, no sharing of USB info from player to player etc), they do have slip mode; that true CDJ feel; reverse; and stop/start break, plus of course standards like looping and cues. And the colour display is nice, especially with its useful waveform (something sadly not available in DJ software modes). The mixer adds features that many DJs moving from analogue to digital (or indeed club DJs looking for a home controller) would otherwise miss - most notably all the right ins/outs plus excellent VU metering.

A word about sound quality. On a Mac, you have to use it in 44.1kHz/16-bit mode when you're using Virtual DJ, a limitation that doesn't present itself with Traktor or with PCs, where you can go up to 192kHz/24-bit. Nonetheless to my ears the sound card used in the CDMP-7000 sounded fine, and nothing about it suggested it wasn't up to the job of what it's designed to do - which is power parties in bars, lounges, mobile gigs and in home DJ set-ups.

Who it's ideally suited to
The CDMP-7000 should appeal the most to mobile DJs; to CD timecode DJs who want a decently priced practice system for home; and to DJs coming from analogue who want something that feels more familiar than modern 100% digital DJ controllers. In all of these cases, it's got a lot to offer.

But for home DJs with club aspirations, here's the biggest bonus of this over a "normal" DJ controller: It's an excellent a bridge between home DJing and club. If you're hoping to make this leap, at some point you're going to have to learn to use CDJ-style gear, possibly without the computer even but certainly without the sync button. This unit can help you with all of that. If you can get past setting it all up right (admittedly, not easy for beginners, and particualrly not so on this due to the added complexity of setting up two, not one, decks), you've got a DJ system that you can use pretty much the same way as any DJ controller - until you're ready to make your "club transition".

At that point, you can put your tunes on USB or CD, and make like you're using CDJs in a real DJ booth. The differences are negligible (as it's as close to club-standard Pioneer gear as you're going to get without buying Pioneer gear), and you'd be far better prepared for a club DJ set training yourself this way at home on a CDMP-7000 than on either a normal DJ controller, or just about any other all-in-one (ie CD/USB/Midi) DJ controller out there.

Product Summary

Review Summary:

The CDMP-7000 should appeal the most to mobile DJs, to CD timecode DJs who want a decently priced practice system for home, and to DJs coming from analogue who want something that feels more familiar than modern 100% digital DJ controllers. For home DJs with club aspirations, it's an excellent a bridge between bedroom DJing and club.

CDMP-7000
  • CDMP-7000
  • Rating: 4
  • From: Gemini
  • Price: $583
  • Reviewed by:
  • On December 14, 2012
  • Last modified:November 20, 2014

Video Review

Do you own the CDMP-7000? What's your experience with it? Does the idea of a Midi controller that also feels and lets you DJ on it just like CDJ club gear appeal to you? Please share your thoughts in the comments.

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Comments

  1. How comes its made in China yet its $820 in the US but $1340 in the UK? Once again companies are treating the British as mugs.

  2. Looking to get one of these “all in one” consoles. Is the much between this and the Mixdeck Quad by Numark?

    • @ ibs you said = Looking to get one of these “all in one” consoles. Is the much between this and the Mixdeck Quad by Numark? hey did u ever decide which one to get ? im on the fence about buying either one of these & can’t make up my mind

  3. How would you compare this to, say, the Numark Mixdeck?

  4. Looks sweet, it reminds me kinda Pioneer cds!!!!!

  5. DJ_ForcedHand says:

    Is there an option to do 2+2 mixing on the decks? I think for this price, people want the ability to handle (at least) 4 decks. Also, since this has MIDI control, will it be able to internally handle an outboard unit that generates signal but doesn’t have a sound card (like a drum machine) in addition to the Tracks it plays?

  6. Great review phil thanks, now i belive i have made my mind up on what to go for thanks to the video , i was playing with this setup and the new DDJ-SX controller , this one seems to give me everything i would use at a nice price.

    Thanks again.

  7. Jam-Master Jake says:

    Fascinating little unit. I’m tempted to buy it, though I’ll probably just be stupid and buy some Pioneer CDJs and a DJM…

  8. Yeah i would hardly call you silly , if i had the cash i would do the same , i am just 2 deck mixing A to B type no need for all the tricks even if i could do them hehe.

  9. Shishdisma says:

    This seems like a really tough sale and recommendation over units like the XDJ. I mean, you’re paying a $150-$200 premium for a product that… well… actually works the way it’s advertised. Bonus points for “the home club” for staying in the Rekordbox ecosystem.

  10. I was ready to buy one of this. But in Albanian where i live there are no gemini shops to try it out so i bought a ddj T1. At the time was no review of it just some videos. But i see that the midi is not so good and the mixer is lack of Fx that i mean they are essential on a mix transition.

  11. The wireless thing ??? It sounds crap.

  12. I have spent an hour with this unit and the mixdeck quad. In person this unit looks more mature and robust while the Mixdeck quad unit looks like a toy. It was priced $200 higher than the quad, but now it’s only $50 higher than the quad. I guess they figured that if the consumer wanted to pay $1000 for a unit, they could get the Pioneer DDJ SX. Overall it is a good unit for a DJ who wants to wean themselves away from wave watching. And trust me, if you are intending to play out on a set of Pioneer CDJ you may want this unit to get accustomed to the feel. I have a numark unit, and I was invited to play on Internet show with a pair of CDJ. My mixes were not as seamless and fluid because I was too busy trying to get accustomed to the New feel and workings of the CDJ.

    • hey im on the fence about buying either or. CDMP-7000 or Mixdeck Quad. im not a scratch dj nor do i care about wave forums. im an old school dj who mix’s by ear. so i sold my numark ns7 (i loved it) but i always got that what if in the back of my mind,about my laptop crashing & or software problems. so now i need to spend my $ on another all-n-one unit that play cd’s,flash drives, ect,ect. so please advise which one is better ? thanx DJ Tyme

  13. Really insightful review; thanks very much!
    I was looking to buy a pair of these (particularly second hand off ebay, much cheaper compared to models in oz!). I have a $1300 budget atm, possibly more.
    I was wondering if I should invest more into these and get perhaps a cheaper secondhand mixer, or purchase a fuller, cheaper kit with the numark ndx900s and another decent mixer?
    My numark mixtrack pro has lasted me a good 2 years at house parties but I’m definitely looking to expand. I want to stick to digital djing no doubt but wanting to also experience using CDJ platters. Any advice on what I should get?
    Thanks very much, this site is so great!

    • sorry, I meant buying a pair of the Gemini CDJ 700s, the Numark NDX900s (+mixer) or should I invest into this controller (seemed to have left that out sorry)?

      • @ kermodo what did u decide on ? because these are the exact things im trying to decide on. cdj-700,ndx900,+mixer & or gemini CDMP-7000 or Numark mixdeck Quad ?

  14. Yes same here i’m still a little unsure about the mixer on the all in one unit , i like the analog side but overall quality of the mixer has me on the fence tbh , i was thinking maybe just taking the 2 players and then adding something like the DDM4000.

    This is driving me nuts lol , i just want to make the right move as i will only get the one chance to spend this money ;).

  15. Gemini (Philips) is a side I steer well clear of buying, had lots of there kit in the past and its always been subpar and not good value for money, there are better options at this price bracket

  16. Thank you for some feedback , can you suggest other options please , just to give them / it a look over so to speak.

    I know at the end of the day i need to make my own judgement but all help is very much appreciated.

    Cheers.

  17. Ok I purchased one. Got it home and the left deck did not function in vinyl mode. I called my distributor they told me to bring it back for a swap. Got the second one home and the right deck did not function in vinyl mode. Turned around and swapped it for third one. I worked perfect…for a week. Then, the right channel on the mixer went out. Took it back and swapped for a mixdeck quad. I foolishly did not take heed to all the horrible quality reviews about gemini product. Don’t be like me.

    • Just Brought the Gemini CDMP 7000, I was excided because I practice overseas a lot and didnt want to bring my cdj2000 or my Denons, anyway right out of the box I slipped in a disk first deck and then the Horror happened I slipped cd in second deck and it got stuck wouldnt recognize it and wouldnt eject my disk, failed on the first attempt, so I am sending it back and sticking to quality. brought the Pioneer xdj-R1. it is a cheap copy of the Pioneer CDJ2000 and with the amount of moving around a mobile dj does it needs to be more sturdy and at least work right out of the Box.

  18. Oh .. sorry to hear you had issues , i appreciate your words of caution.

    I wish i could say “it must have been a bad 1 in a batch” but 3 ?.
    Hope the mixdeck quad works out good for you.
    Thanks again.

  19. I must admit. I loved the look and feel of the CDMP 7000…although I was slightly disappointed with the limited range on all of the on-board effects and lack of true eq kills. So far I am pleased with the quad. I should have smelled something fishy. The CDMP 7000 retailed for $999 when it first hit the market. In Dec, the price dropped to $849. I’m pretty sure they were aware that the unit could not live up to the price tag….so they dropped the price to move the product. Also notice, you won’t find ANY videos of people REALLY doing a demo on this unit.

  20. how do you record your sets??do you have to do it through the pc?can you let me no asap thanks

  21. Why oh why didn’t they midi-enable the mixer on this? it would be an unbelievable package if they did – even for the added cost.

    And if they aren’t going to make it midi enabled, then surely it needs to have FULL KILL EQs, and/or Filters??
    It’s such a shame.

    • i’d be really interested to know what the owners of this package think of the mixer. can anyone comment? how bad/good is it in practice?

  22. This controller looks really good.
    Does the external mixer works when broadcasting with Virtual DJ or Traktor?

    Thanks :D

  23. I’m debating between the CDMP-7000 ($700) and the Pioneer DDJ-SX ($1000).I do have club aspirations. Can someone help me decide?

  24. Eric McDonald says:

    I am very interested in this unit, and although it is still in manufacture recall, I am waiting for it to come out. I have been on the Numark Mixtrack Pro for about a year and a half now, but it is time for an upgrade. This unit is well in the price range ($700), but I do not want something that will not last. Anyone that owns one have any thoughts?

  25. Please how can I get my Gemini cdmp 7000 work on vdj pro…..Cant get d settings.

  26. does anyone know how the knobs feel? do they feel cheap?

  27. [email protected] says:

    How comes this appears to be working with Traktor here yet in reality does not. While controlling Traktor if you nudge the right deck slightly it pitches it up by +40% so no way of timing it with another track playing whatever the source. Also if you nudge it forwards it slows down the track and nudge it backwards it speeds it up. And the biggest problem is that if you switch one of the decks to another input such as USB it kills Traktor on the other deck.
    Right now this is looking like a huge mistake and their support is rubbish, you cant contact them via their website and when you try through Facebook and get a reply it is obnoxious and rude.

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