Controller Clinic #23: Why Won’t Traktor Record My Controller’s Mic Input?

The clue's in the wording: 'mic through' means the unit doesn't actually send the mic to your computer at all.

The clue's in the wording: 'mic through' means the unit doesn't actually send the mic to your computer at all.

Digital DJ Tips reader Stefan has a problem that can occur with lots of DJ controllers. He writes: "I have the Numark Mixtrack Pro and I do a weekly live mix on Mixify and I want to be able to speak via a microphone which is plugged into my Mixtrack Pro. I am having problems with the microphone input on my Mixtrack Pro, the microphone is not getting picked up by Traktor. What can I do?"

Digital DJ Tips says:

The microphone on the Mixtrack Pro is not fed to your computer or your DJ software at all. It's simply routed straight to the outputs at the back of the unit, and so while the mic sound does comes out of your speakers, it won't be present on your broadcast feed, as you've found out.

The easiest way to get around this would be to plug the output of your Mixtrack Pro into another laptop as an input, and broadcast from that. It is sometimes possible to feed the output of your DJ controller back into the same laptop in this way to save you using two, but it's not simple to do.

Have you faced the issue of trying to get your DJ controller to feed external inputs into your software, for broadcasting or other reasons? How have you got round it, and have you had to use extra software or cables to do so? Please share your thoughts in the comments.

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Comments

  1. Another thought if we’re talking about Traktor is to make deck C a live input and run the mic into the mic port on the laptop.

  2. Most budget controllers have their mic input routed straight to the output, so there is no inputs.

    There are some ways around it:
    Asio4All with 2 soundcards selected (so you can plug your mic into the second soundcard & route it into your software) or a software like VirtualDJ or Mixxx that can work with 2 soundcards without additional software/drivers (and that also can broadcast to all radiostations: flatcast, shoutcast & icecast)
    Virtual Audio Cable software can also help (its a virtual “mixer” that can create virtual audio channels and route all them together – but with a huge latency, so its not the best way and the software is not free).

    The simple option is just to route your output into line input on your onboard soundcard and use it for broadcasting.
    Numark N4 has a separate booth out, which is pretty useful for that. If you got only 1 output (like on Mixtrack Pro), you have to split that signal.

    Another option is to you software like SAM Broadcaster, route the audio output from your controller into the software and add your mic (both over onboard soundcard).

    The best option is to use only 1 software because that allows you to stream id3 tags to the radiostation. If you grab only your audio signal, there is no id3 tags on it.

    A lot if times i used Traktor Pro, Asio4all Driver (with 2 soundcards, one for controller & traktor outputs and other for mic input), Icecast server and StreamTranscoder to change the stream from Icecast to Shoutcast and keep id3 tags.. It works, but its hard to set up this right.

    • DJ Forced Hand says:

      I really like what Thomas is saying here. Truly, the problem isn’t with routing, it’s about audio integration. Your mic (right now) simply doesn’t exist to Traktor, so you need to get it on Traktor’s radar. My first (and cheapest) suggestion is to obtain a microphone adapter for use that plugs into your microphone and your computer (I believe most laptops provide enough juice to power un-powered mics) and then route your microphone into Traktor as an Aux line in… it’s a little tricky at first because you have to deal with both the computer and Traktor, but it works… cheaply) *OR* if you can find a used Audio4 or Audio6, (or any DJ Sound Card with more than two inputs) that Traktor recognizes, that’s your solution in one box, you just plug in your microphone, change the audio card you’re using from the one in your controller to the external sound card (in Traktor) and route all of your audio there.

      For your usage though, I recommend that you use a D.A.W. and record your inputs (on separate inputs) so you can change things later if you need to. If you have breaks in your set, you can replace sections here. If your vocals are distorted or too high/low, you can change them inside the D.A.W. and if you messed up, you can re-record what you messed up inside the D.A.W.

      • There are many solutions to this problem, but if someone need inputs (timecode, mic whatever), just look for the right interface (even if your controller has one). It will save you time and problems with multiple software clients (keep it simple – avoid compatibility problems).

        But the second audio interface or an external mixer are expensive, so there are some cheap/free options.

        Dont forget this, with asio4all drivers you can mostly add 2 soundcards to any dj-programm or DAW. You may expect some latency problems (because your onboard soundcard cant work with the same low latency as your external), but this can be fixed fast.
        Specially with Traktor, asio4all can be the solution.

      • Kyle Bolton says:

        I have a traktor A6 and kontrol S2 and can’t get this way to work. I have the main outputs from the S2 going into the main section on the A6 soundcard and it’s detecting it but I can’t actually get the sound out from the A6, surely this must be simple. Any ideas?

  3. Robert Wulfman says:

    Mixify has an option to broadcast from a direct input, you’d have to use that and use a splitter to wire the output from the mixtrack both into your laptop’s mic input and your speakers.

  4. i use virtual dj pro and have a Terminal mix 4 and this exact same problem too, anyone know what i need to do?

    • Options > 2 soundcards or Asio4all driver (free download) and then plug your mic into your onboard soundcard and set the microphone input & the usual sound output on your controller. Should work fine.
      If your onboard card cant work with the microphone, you can buy a preamp – that will solve the problem.

  5. Hey Phil, thanks for the quick reply, I’ve found a easier method, I plugged in my microphone into my laptop’s microphone port and I set Deck C of Traktor to be a Live Input from my microphone and now it works well. Thanks :)

  6. DJPlutonic says:

    I had the same issue, all i done was buy a phono Y-Splitter and connected it to the master, so anything that comes out of the master will be broadcasted as well as the sound/music

  7. DJPlutonic says:

    so the master going into the amp and the master going into the pc/laptop

  8. I can inform you that the Native Instruments S2 MK2 behaves like the ‘old S4′. I plugged in a mic yesterday in my new S2 MK2 and it’s accessible via input routing and I can put it on the live input, incl. effects.

  9. ***warning, monster post next!***

    i’ve got a reloop Digital Jockey 2 Interface, with the same problem.
    at reloop’s offical page you can download several different firmwares, some of them claiming to provide the routing of the mic to software, but i’ve got no luck with any of such firmwares that i’ve tried. (whats more Traktor doesnt recognize the line-in either…)
    reloop does not provide clear info about this, nor about that it seems there were several hardwer versions came out of the same Digital Jockey 2 interface edition. for example the manual references a “mic EQ”, where in reality my unit has got no such thing – afair instead it has the volume fader for the phono/line-in at that place.

    my guess is that the earlier revisions had sw-routing for the mic (along with a eq), but the later ones had not, but master-through only for the mic. for this i’ve found nor reference nor hard information at reloop support site or product pages – the different revisions are only referenced as “units below or above” a specific item number. all w/o mentioning the – somewhat huge i must say! – differences between revisions or mentioning at all that they’ve commited changes to the internals and features for the interface, resulting differently featured units….

    also infos at the reloop download pages for RDJ2 firmwares are confusing, as some FW for the later revisions are seemingly available with SW-routing.
    what kind of practice is that anyway, removing/adding features by Firmware updates, not in software, fe. a settings application (which do exists btw).
    and of course often firmwares require specific drivers.
    so if you wanna change between available features and do it frequently, coz letsay, you have 2 very different gigs at the same day in a weekly basis, then… you gotta de-install/install drivers (its simply a JOY by itself in windows, isnt it?:), upgrade/downgrade the FW regarding needed features ((all of what your device is already capable phisicaly) and doing all that risking screwing up the whole unit for good. twice a day. fun-fun-fun.
    (it must be that coding a sw-switch + placing a control element for it in the settings gui is really that hard as climbing Everest with bare feet…)

    my another strong guess is, that they made those specific (and irritating:) changes after they decided on the more advanced “Master Edition” of the digital jockey 2, so they had to reduce the features of the – now – normal interface (and usability) in order to made the ME, their new flagship product look more valuable and desirable over the interface…

    the mere, good ol’ bcd 2/3000 works like a charm routing the (XLR connected!) mic to whatever sw i want send it to, got real hw surface buttons to select inputs + extensive setting app for selecting all features, changing behaviour – you can use the device for its full.
    i’ve never would thought that a lot newer, much more expensive and considered to be more “pro” device will be capable doing less and got fewer features (not to mention user-friendlyness) than that old design of behringer – whats more, actually even crippled down by its producer….

    anyways, sorry 4 da long rent..:)

    if anyone knows better on the subject, please, do correct me!

    also if theres still a way to record the mic of later revision RDJ2 IE in traktor,
    without 2nd soundcard, using only the unit itself, PLEASE let me know!:)

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