XLR Adapter Plug to 2 x Phono RCA Plugs

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  • #1024769

    dhora795@gmail.com
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    Please would any DJ help me as I am new to this and I would like to go and buy a Numark Mixtrack Quad.

    http://www.getinthemix.com/digital-dj/dj-controllers/numark-mixtrack-quad.htm

    I think I have found the right cable to come out of the back of the unit but I will only need to work out which wire goes in what hold when I have it.

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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/kenable-Adapter-Plug-Phono-Cable/dp/B003OSXBSI

    I am asking this question as then I can use XLR cables to some 550w Behringer B215D Eurolive speakers.

    Thanks

    David.

    #1024785

    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Check out our PA guide here:

    http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2013/04/beginners-guide-to-pa-systems-part-1-basics/

    Long story short: RCA is unbalanced signal and XLR/TRS is balanced (mostly) so it is not good practice to do this even if an adapter exists and depending on what you do it will not work or make problems.

    #1024802

    dhora795@gmail.com
    Participant

    Ok if anyone knows about the Behringer Nox606 mixer and this one has got XLR so I like to be able to put it on to the shopping list.

    http://www.gak.co.uk/en/behringer-pro-mixer-nox606/47678?gclid=CK20h_S987sCFROhwgodCzwAxw

    David.

    #1024809

    The Behringer B215D speakers indeed have no RCA input. But they have an unbalanced TS input which you can use. You simply need one RCA-to-TS adapter for each speaker and then use a normal RCA cable to connect the controller: http://www.amazon.co.uk/HosaTech-GPR-101-inch-Adapter-Pack/dp/B000068O3S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389360382&sr=8-1&keywords=ts+to+rca+adapter

    #1024834

    dhora795@gmail.com
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    I had a look at the back of the speakers and I have read this web page about Balanced wiring which I found very helpful as XLR cables are Grounded.  This means that if someone has a mobile phone the signal will not get though.  For anyone new like me how is the information on this link.

    http://www.dplay.com/dv/balance/balance.html

    So I feel a XLR cable from a mixer to the speakers will work as the Controller can be fixed to the mixer by rca plugs.  I think this will work.

    #1024859

    If you used the Behringer Nox606 mixer then the best option is indeed using a (balanced) XLR cable from the mixer to the speakers. And an (unbalanced) RCA cable from the controller to the mixer.

    But be aware that if you use the Numark Mixtrack Quad controller you might not have much use for the Behringer mixer as you will only use one channel coming from the Mixtrax controller. Unless of course you have plans to connect also other devices to the mixer.

    #1024866

    dhora795@gmail.com
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    Yes I will as I can use a mic and of course I was going to buy CDjs for CDs as when I buy new cds and I have had a few years I can use CDs, MP3, mics and so on.  I did put down I was going to use a xlr to rca and as Terry said that cable makes it unbalanced and I have read another web site to learn more and the XLR is a balanced cable as it has a ground in it to stop hum getting to the speaker.  So I will go along with that as when I am a pro I can use Balanced cables from the mixed to the speakers.  Plus as I have watch videos on DJing make sure a buy rolls of black tape to put over the cables.

    Thanks to all that have help me and do take care.

    David.

    #1024887

    DJ Psychotrance
    Participant

    i use RCA to XLR male cables to connect my reloop terminal mix 4 to my behringer B412DSP speakers with no problems…..the twin adapter you linked will not work as it is 2xRCA to 1 XLR…..you need 1 RCA to 1 XLR male like this one:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/271021363147?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0

    you connect the red RCA output on the mixtrack quad to the right speaker and the white RCA output to the left speaker.

    #1024890

    DJ Psychotrance
    Participant

    So you will need 2 of the cables i linked to in my previous post.

    #1024914

    dhora795@gmail.com
    Participant

    I found some on e-mail so I can write the names down and here is the cables I will buy

    <span style=”font-family: arial, Geneva, Tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; background-color: #fbfbfb;”>Numark Mixtrack Quad.with the Livewire 2 x XLR Male to 2x RCA phone 1.5 metre cable (Link> </span>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Livewire-2-x-XLR-Male-to-2x-RCA-Phono-1-5-Metre-Cable-Lead-/190991083364?_trksid=p2054897.l4276<span style=”font-family: arial, Geneva, Tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; background-color: #fbfbfb;”> to goto the </span><span style=”background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: arial, Geneva, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;”>550w Behringer B215D Eurolive speakers.</span><span style=”font-family: arial, Geneva, Tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; background-color: #fbfbfb;”> </span>

    Thanks

    David.

    #1024932

    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Yep, unbalanced to balanced is not a good idea. Running long unbalanced cables is also a really bad idea. Therefor hooking up speakers with unbalanced cables is not a good plan unless they sit really close to you and there isn’t stuff around to cause interference (be aware of light dimmer packs, they will most certainly kill your sound and can often be found in the vicinity of a DJ booth!).

    Furthermore I read something about balanced being good because they are grounded. This is not the reason balanced is good. What makes balanced good is that the original signal gets “copied” to a second identical signal that is opposite in polarity (so a positive signal on one wire has a equal negative signal on the other wire). Let’s say you pick up distortion. This will change the values of the signals. but since they will affect both signals yet opposite in value, when at the end of the cable they add the signals again, the interference picked up along the way is cancelled out and only the original signal remains.

    Hope that made sense.

    Greetinx.

    #1024946

    dhora795@gmail.com
    Participant

    Well that is why I am learning from people that know what they are doing as it is a lot of money just to spend then to have the gear go wrong, no thanks, I would like my gear to last so if I buy better gear I can at last keep the old gear as a stand by.  At last when I am learning I can find out what to buy and save money in the long run.

    Thanks to all of you that put in some input.

    #1025135

    Newportdj Drew
    Participant

    It is possible to change balanced to unbalanced. you bridge pins 1&3 which become negative, pin 2 stays as positive. Please note that you limit your maximum cable length to 3 meters and they become prone to interference.

    #1025149

    DJ Psychotrance
    Participant

    yes if you run RCA cables longer than 3 meters you will lose sound quality and run risk of interference but, if your controller only has RCA output and you don’t want to buy a mixer with XLR outputs so you can connect your speakers then run a short (1 meter) RCA to XLR, then to make cables longer just connect XLR cable to end of your short RCA – XLR cable and into speakers. That’s what i do.

    #1025156

    Newportdj Drew
    Participant

    Unfortunately, the lead is still unbalanced and has the 3mt limitation. To get around this properly,  a DI box needs to be utilized. This then balances the signal and is the only solution if you want longer lead runs. Note this is an active DI b(needs external power), but you can get passive DI’s (just plug and play no ext power req) as well.

    Passive link &pic

    http://www.proavmax.com/Whirlwind-pcDI-Direct-Box-Passive-p/whir-pcdi.htm

    Passive DI

    Active Di link & pic

    http://www.arx.com.au/International/audibox-av-di.htm

    di box

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by  Newportdj Drew. Reason: added link and pic
    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by  Newportdj Drew. Reason: active/passive DI explaination
    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by  Newportdj Drew. Reason: active/passive DI explaination
    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by  Newportdj Drew. Reason: active/passive DI explaination
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