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  • #1000665
    DJ GRE
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    Now this is a musing that I would like others to expound upon… would EDM music exist in the capacity that it has reached without recreational drugs, I would like to think so, but when I play a great EDM set it seems like the crowds thoughts usually linger around ‘Oh I wish I was on E for that’ or ‘I’m so high right now and that was wonderful’ – good reactions, but still it makes me wonder…. Myself, I have never taken drugs (although I don’t judge anyone that does – just not my thing) – so I’ve never experienced EDM under the influence – except for alcohol – and I still absolutely love EDM.

    So, what are your thoughts on the link between the two? Would EDM be where it is now without the help of pharmaceuticals? Any interesting stories? Please do share. 🙂

    #1000668

    I am not a fan of drugs in any context. I don’t even like taking Panadol unless the doctor says so. I think that taking drugs when you’re out at any sort of performance is a bit disrespectful, because it’s sorta saying that you don’t feel the performer can give you a good enough time by them/him/herself.

    #1895
    ellgieff
    Member

    Two quick things: Alcohol is a drug. Mixing music with drugs is as old as civilisation.

    The only thing different about “our” music is that it’s not made by physical means. Other than that, we’re not really that special.

    As an aside it’s not the crowd’s job to respect us, it’s our job to entertain them.

    #1903
    Alex Wild
    Participant

    I’ll preface this by saying that I don’t take anything stronger than alcohol these days.

    However, when I first got into Drum and Bass, I really liked listening to it on pirate radio and from mixtapes. But it wasn’t until I went to my first rave and took something cheeky that I really GOT that music.
    I’m not saying that everyone has to take something to get into certain types of music, but that’s just how it happened for me, and it was a great experience.

    #1909
    Phil Morse
    Keymaster

    I think they often have been linked, sometimes very closely, and like eligieff says, music has always been made/enjoyed under the influence of something – it’s not peculiar to EDM.

    But I also think that DJs have to make a choice early on: Go down the drink/drugs route, or the “clean” route, for which there’s only really one answer. Otherwise your body is going to give up on you long before your mind does.

    #1911
    mr_john
    Member

    well i cant speak for anyone else. But I got into the whole EDM scene sober. Go to concerts all the time and just love the music. A lot of the regulars around here go just for the music too, and shun the folks who only go high.
    The same could be said about the 60s music. So no, I don’t think edm owes it’s success to drugs. I loved dance music, lights, glow sticks and “trippy” visuals when I was a kid who’d never even heard of drugs. I still flip on the itunes visualizer every now and then and just enjoy it with the music. You don’t have to be rockin 1 inch diameter pupils to enjoy a crazy laser show.

    #1917
    Alex Wild
    Participant

    Just thinking about the flipside of this debate. We’ve all been talking about the role of drugs for the listener, but what about for the writer? You can’t deny that A LOT of good music has been created under the influence, or been inspired by it.

    #1000679
    Matt Challands
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    The whole scene took off because of drugs. Make no mistake, from the roots of EDM in downtown NY and Chicago gay clubs to the early the 90s in hedonistic UK, to the coke-befuddled last ten years, drugs are instrumental in influencing music and always have been.

    Funny how now house and electro has gone totally mainstream and none of the listeners take any drugs.

    As for DJs, doesn’t matter. Don’t play when you’re out of it on drugs obviously, but I think it does help to have lived a drug scene and to be able to relate to people who pop a pill to appreciate the music.

    #1000682
    ellgieff
    Member

    Alex Wild, post: 1906 wrote: Just thinking about the flipside of this debate. We’ve all been talking about the role of drugs for the listener, but what about for the writer? You can’t deny that A LOT of good music has been created under the influence, or been inspired by it.

    *warning: contains foul language, not suitable for minors or work*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ

    #1946
    Alex Wild
    Participant

    ellgieff, post: 1932 wrote: *warning: contains foul language, not suitable for minors or work*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ

    AMEN.

    #1000685
    Arthol Gibson
    Participant

    While agreeing with most that has been said, I think peer pressure and the will for acceptance factor in heavily for the prevalence of drugs in any music scene.
    Of the users you’d probably find 40-60% use as a means of habit or because they really feel like that’s the only way to connect to the vibe… :/ the other percentage would be the ones doing it because they assume that it’s a part of the ‘scene’ or because the person they came with is on something.. or they do it just to look cool.

    So while EDM and E (per se) may go hand-in-hand, I think it has alot less to do with the culture of things and more to do with an assumed perception of them.

    #1963
    Lew
    Member

    ellgieff, post: 1932 wrote: *warning: contains foul language, not suitable for minors or work*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ

    And along similar lines…

    *warning: also contains foul language*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyRDDOpKaLM

    #1964
    ellgieff
    Member

    Lew, post: 1952 wrote: And along similar lines…

    *warning: also contains foul language*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyRDDOpKaLM

    Henry makes me quite sad in that one, though. And I say this as a person who has every record Black Flag ever released, and a tattoo of the Slip It In album cover.

    The thing is the way he completely ignores the connection between alcohol, speed and that first wave of USHC – and the accusations of no talent really bug me because let’s face it, Greg Ginn was the talent in the band he (Henry) was most famous for.

    Love the AC Slater bit that sampled it, though.

    #1986
    Matt Challands
    Participant

    Ampero, post: 1951 wrote: While agreeing with most that has been said, I think peer pressure and the will for acceptance factor in heavily for the prevalence of drugs in any music scene.
    Of the users you’d probably find 40-60% use as a means of habit or because they really feel like that’s the only way to connect to the vibe… :/ the other percentage would be the ones doing it because they assume that it’s a part of the ‘scene’ or because the person they came with is on something.. or they do it just to look cool.

    So while EDM and E (per se) may go hand-in-hand, I think it has alot less to do with the culture of things and more to do with an assumed perception of them.

    You’d have to take drugs to realise why dance music and drugs (especially ecstasy) are connected. The first pill many take may be partly down to peer pressure, but after that it’s nothing to do with that anymore. After the first MDMA wave of pure pleasure when dancing to music, people don’t need peer pressure anymore or any assumed perception of them. They keep taking pills because they enjoy it and it lets them connect perfectly well and deeply with EDM.

    It’s completely cultural and the dance music we know today would be either nonexistent or totally different if you took away MDMA from the equation.

    #1000690
    U31
    Member

    a DJ / Writer/ Producer i know back in the day used to swap notes with chemists / importers / dealers of rare and unusual substances on the effects of such stuff that was in circulation
    If the mdma was “trippy” you’d get tancey floaty tracks, or it was a stompy gurny feel you’d get a harder edge…

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