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    Callum Taylor
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    Is it OK to DJ with Spotify? I’m only 13 so I don’t have much money to buy music on iTunes and I have a long Spotify playlist you can check it out if you want my name is necamco. what should I do?

    #2333131
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Simply said: No.
    WHen you play spotify in public you are breaking the End User Agreement with Spotify and probably the law of your country. So it is illegal to do this.
    The function for example in djay that lets you DJ with spotify is only meant for home training purpose (you by yourself).

    #2333601
    Callum Taylor
    Participant

    Is there anything else I can use apart from paying a couple of hundred $ for my music?

    #2333821
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    As Terry said, you are ok to use it at home for practice. Anything else you should be buying your tracks.

    Now, while I may not be 13 anymore and it’s been a while since I was, I do recall having an allowance. And I am guessing allowances have gone up (inflation and all that) over the last 40 years.

    Good DJs listen to a LOT of music, but buy only a LITTLE number of tracks (5-10 per month!). I am pretty sure that you have accumulated quite a few CDs over the last years of music you like. Those you can rip to WAV, Flac or MP3 and use of course. From now on you should only pick the absolute best tracks you hear, listen to them for at least a few more times on different systems and in different environments like your bedroom DJ set, on your phone while on the bus to schoool, at a friends home stereo set. And only when you are absolutely sure that you need that track in your permanent collection do you go and buy it at iTunes, Beatport Pro or any of the other online places to buy music. It should cost you no more than 5-15 bucks a month. If your allowance doesn’t cover it, doing the neighbours lawn once a month should 😀 .

    Basically what we are saying is you can start behaving like a professional DJ today at the age of 13 by at least purchasing your tracks legally. And by the time you are 18 or 20 and get discovered, you can be the guy that can stand up proudly and say that he has always supported the artists whose music helped you become the DJ you are then.

    Good luck m8

    #2334011
    Callum Taylor
    Participant

    Thanks for the support and tips I don’t have an allowance so I’ll have to be doing a lot of jobs around the house

    #2334171
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    There you go!

    #2351621
    All Murray
    Participant

    A few Djs around my way DJ in public using a controller with an Ipad with spotify tethered to a mobile phone.

    #2351681
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Yep, and what they are doing is a) illegal and b) not fair to the artists.

    We are not saying you can’t, just that you shouldn’t.

    #2351721
    All Murray
    Participant

    Tell me about it, the djs around my area that do it as the ones that claim they cant afford to buy music, and dont earn enough from gigs/dont get enough gigs and stuff like that. I currently use the XDJ RX and buy my music from ebay e.g clubland cds, and cd packs from music from different eras, put the music through rekordbox before i export to USB… What baffles me with these djs are that they rely on an internet connection for their gigs when it could go down any time…

    #2351901
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Yeah. And once your collection is ready to play out (couple of hundred tracks), your monthly intake should really not be much more than 4-10 tracks a month (10 already being pretty much imho). You need to pick only the gems to avoid that your collection grows too much or you enter stuff with a rather short shelf life, thus contaminating your collection.

    And as soon as your collection has reached a level you predetermined (Phil for example has about 600 tracks), you can start taking one track out for every new track entering. This will make you very picky about what to enter and every time you enter one you are forced to consider what track needs to go. Slowly but surely, over time, your collection will be hard hits only.

    And hits in this case has nothing to do with charts, but with tracks that you know will work very well with your audiences and that you like to use.

    At the end of the day, even at 2-3 bucks a wav at Beatport, monthly spending is around 8 to 30 bucks a month. Even if you don’t make (much) money DJ-ing, that is the kind of money you should be able to save for music somehow (the first 10 bucks a month is not getting Spotify Premium!).

    #2359811
    Max Toupin
    Participant

    You could also take a look at sites like SoundCloud, hearthis and bancamp. You can find some really good tracks that the artists let you download for free or really cheap. It can also set yourself apart from other djs with tracks that no one else is playing

    #2360291
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Music discovery, including the free stuff, is one of the main talents of a good DJ!

    #2360461
    Clifford Anderson
    Participant

    … and it is such a GREAT time to be a cheapskate DJ. I would say 95% of my playlist is free tracks that from Soundcloud. I give as well as I get, my tracks to date have always been either free or, at worst, PWYW with a $0 minimum. (With no guilt given for takin’ it as a freebie, either – PLEASE! If you enjoy my music, take a copy!)

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