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Maschine is superb, very much erring on the production side of things, particular the Studio version you mention. But no reason why you can’t use it to add to your DJ sets, only thing I would say is the Studio is significantly bigger than Maschine MkII and if you’re planning to use it at gigs, I’d say a Mikro might even be best. Personlly I’d go with Maschine MkII, best of both worlds.
Maschine software integrates pretty well with Logic Pro X (which I also use), however I often find I’ll work in Maschine standlone and then bounce and head over to Logic to keep CPU work down.
Yeah I remember that, very sad indeed. What a huge influence they and Metalheadz had in the early days with Jungle and subsequently Drum & Bass, ripples of which created many other genres including Dubstep.
Funnily enough I was only trawling through some old mid 90’s Jungle/D&B 12″s the other day (got to love Moving Shadow!) and played Doc Scott’s remix of ‘Kemistry’ by Goldie, superb remix of a great track that, lovely long intro.
Kontrol S4 here, depending on what I’m doing:
Studio Mix: 2 channels for digital mixing, the other 2 channels are hooked up to the 1210’s for straight vinyl.
Radio Shows: 2 channels for digital mixing, 1 ch for mic, 1 ch for voiceovers/3rd track cue.
Gigs: 4 channels available for digital mixing – very rarely 4 ch mixing, 3 tops, 4th for accapella use.
I must admit I find having four dedicated channels very useful indeed and if someone starting out can afford a 4 ch controller/mixer, I would suggest it – cost effective in the longer term imho.
Superb find D-Jam, used to prefer Muzik to Mixmag, although DJ Mag used to the be the place or a proper hype chart for me. Can I also point to the Muzik Mag Bedroom Bedlam DJ competition each month, just have a look how many names have gone on to have careers from winning that competition. James Zabiela for one, I’m lucky to have a CDR of the winning mix, amazing what could be done back then with no where near the DJ tools available now.
I recently picked up Maschine to complement my very modest production suite and have to say it’s brilliant. I’ve not integrated with Traktor/S4 yet, so I can’t comment on that side of things. I also agree with DJam, I would only go with the Maschine if you intend to use it heavily for production, as you can do everything point n click in the DAW, albeit not as tactile.
Maschine Mk2, picked it up last weekend, one word – ‘superb’. 🙂
I’m a Reason user since v2.0 and bought this to sit along side exisiting production SW/HW but also to use in conjunction with Traktor. It really is an excellent bit of kit.
Thing is; for quite a few clubs the standard setup is still very much CDJ’s and maybe Technics TTs as well, hopefully newer booths have been designed to accomodate controllers/other kit but this is not always the case – I believe forward thinking venues should implement additional space when renovating their booths. Also venues may be relunctant to allow DJ’s to turn up with various types of controller and simply plug in to a spare house mixer channel. I’m not saying this is right, but it is common in my experience, despite it being an easy task to do.
Also in terms of playing preprepared sets, I’d include digital DJing alongside CDJs – it’s just as easy, just play a pre recorded digital audio file.
Mitch Hambling, post: 38206, member: 7942 wrote: holy shit lol, you were spot on with that conneciton.
I would like to start mixing on CDJ’s to learn on them, but where the hell is a 15 year old sposed to find that kinda money?
Hi Mitch, in answer to this, mainly saving, buying 2nd hand and keeping your eyes peeled for a bargain – maybe borrow a pair if you can? No real difference to buying Technics TT’s back in the ‘dino’ years as you call them 😉 Took me a good couple of years to save up enough to buy 1x 1210 Mk2 (was using belt drive decks before this) and then blew a load of my student loan on a 2nd 😉
I fully appreciate what you’re saying but tbh DJing these days is the cheapest it’s ever been, what with entry level controllers and cheap music, which is great. I completely skipped buying CDJ’s (although do DJ on them as necessary) and went from vinyl to digital a few years ago, couldn’t believe how much money I saved… anyway I’m drifting off topic.. main thrust is, the cost has always separated DJ’s from those as hobbyists and those that stick with it – no problem with either but if you want the kit, you’ll always find a way.
Wish you all the best.
Again, absolutely agree! Think you and me Shuga are from the same mindset! 🙂 None of my DJing peers use or refer to ‘EDM’ at all, and as you suggest, I think this is more to do with the underground scene. At the risk of sounding dismissive, if I was to use the term ‘EDM’ within the scenes I’m involved in and on my radio shows – It would not be taking seriously at all. But each to their own 🙂
Shuga*Foot, post: 37480, member: 2922 wrote: I understand what Atom is saying. However in the 80’s I wasn’t going to EDM parties. I was going to house parties. There wasn’t EDM DJs but house DJs. I do realize that as house and techno moved out of the underground in the 90’s and so on, large music stores would categorize house music in with other “electronic” genres including acid jazz, down tempo, and chillout. But when I went to my fav dance record stores they knew he differences between house and dub-step. The use of the word EDM in mainstream dialogue is relatively new considering how long house music and all of its sub-genres have been around. I agree with BacktotheFront. EDM is more used now to include Top 40 dance artists in with electro house and it gives House and Techno DJs and producers better exposure on the top 40 scene. Me, it’s house music plain and simple.
Totally agree with you Shuga, my thoughts exactly. On this side of the atlantic, it’s very much the same, in the late 80’s and 90’s it was House/Acid House/Techno/Rave/Electronica/Dance Music and derivatives of. I’m probably just splitting hairs but ‘EDM’ as an acronym, first time I heard of it was only a few years ago and coincided with the mainstream acceptance of dance music in the US – I suspect because partly it’s a tidy way to cover several genres for a new audience. I view ‘EDM’ as a catch all genre for mainstream dance music (Top40/Electro-House/Dubstep/Trap) which is popular in the US.
Shuga*Foot, post: 37434, member: 2922 wrote: I came across this documentary on YouTube on the history of house music.
Probably the most thorough walkthrough of house from the early days to raves. In two hours I don’t think I heard the term EDM once. It’s house music!! All night long!!! wuomp wuomp … check it.
atom12v, post: 37436, member: 1423 wrote: Not seen this video yet, contrary to house music EDM is not a genre. House music evolve from the disco era.
EDM was the term giving to electronic music produce for club that includes disco, house, techno and so on.
EDM now = house, techno, dupstep, trance and all those genres and sub genres and “anything somebody call music now a day” LOL.
Not quite correct, the reason ‘EDM’ did not appear in the above video is because it is relatively new term for Dance Music. It came about roughly 3 or 4 years ago when Dance Music eventually went mainstream in the US.
Personally I can’t stand the term and for me it represents the following genres, which coincide with the genres that ‘went big’ in the US: Electro House, Dubstep (sorry I mean, Brostep – far removed from the origins of Dubstep) and mainstream, TOP40 Dance Music.
Nick Powers, post: 37330, member: 2466 wrote: If you had one what would you do with it?
Make music or flog it and make some cash 🙂
As Terry said, Technics are holding their prices, mainly because they have been discontinued, however there are a lot of Techs out there, lots and lots in fact, BUT in various states of condition! You might be able to save some cash and get some that require maintenance (can get most parts on eBay for eg and look at YouTube for tutorials) or send them away. But they are definitely are worth the investment – I’ve had my pair since 1994 and never had a problem and require very little maintenance.
It’s certainly worth maybe having an idea what you’ll start with, say the first 3 tracks or so, just to get in the mood, but however after that, I’ve never, ever planned a set. As others have said, it’s about knowing your tracks and reading the crowd and practice at home. That is the primary function of the DJ imho. The best sets are always ad-hoc too I’ve found, you can tell either as a DJ or a punter.
This isn’t a criticism OP, just a general observation I’ve made about DJ’s learning the ropes – many are always concerned over the minutae of what do play, when to mix, what tech, what s’ware, shall I mix in key, what extra kit do I need to ‘go to the next level’…. keep it simple is my advice: Know your tunes, practice mixing/techniques, record and review every set, learn to read the crowd and don’t be fearful of mistakes, as they will happen whether a new DJ or an old hand . Other than that, the rest is mere bumfluffery getting in the way of playing tunage. Best of luck and enjoy 🙂
adit, post: 35677, member: 2099 wrote: not to patronize you but please don’t trust beatport’s genre labeling at all. maybe 75% of stuff labeled deep house are not deep house.
Agree with this, try Traxsource, for me it’s the best site for Deep/Soulful House music.
Also OP, don’t fall in to the trap of thinking that with DJing you should always be busy, tweaking fx, mixing in and out every couple of minutes etc, especially with Deep House – it would be too disjointed. Subtle layering and gentler transitions and raise the energy levels over a longer time period. As someone else said above, house heads will lap this up and appreciate the nuances of the mixing 🙂
On a wider point, I’ve noticed a general trend in the last few years of DJ’s thinking they need to be constantly hard at it, I suspect this is partly down to the Youtube 10min mixes of manic button bashing/fx/cutting tracks, which although impressive, it is completely different to a club environment in my opinion. I guess it all depends on the club/crowd/country possibly too.