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April 24, 2017 at 3:54 pm in reply to: 4 channel mixer for vinyl & Serato – returning old school DJ #25512015miiksParticipant
Uh, do you want to play the digital files through controller jogs or have you though of using DVS? Either way, I’m gonna give few equips to check out. I’m assuming here you don’t want to spend more on controller/mixer than what SX2 costs.
Denon MC7000: It is much like SX2, has few differences here and there and it’s also capable for DVS. It’s little cheaper than SX2 and you get the famous Denon DJ build quality. Imho better (and cheaper) option than SX2
Numark NS6II: Now this is a brand new controller. In my knowledge it’s not capable for DVS but it can run vinyl players through channels 3 and 4. NS6II is much different from MC7000 and SX2. It’s missing a lot extra features that those two has (seems like you’re not into too much to them anyways) but it has some features that they don’t have like filter roll and filter FX. And those jogs are really sexy and handy showing important data of the playing track like BPM. And this is also 200-300€ chapter than MC7000 and SX2.
Reloop RMX-90 DVS: Well at the price point of SX2 this is a really good looking mixer. It’s DVS ready so your option to play digital files through this would be using DVS system. But then again, you say you have 2 turntables and you don’t need much ‘extras’ on the equipment so from mixers even the cheap Akai AMX (a bit over 200€) might do the thing. It’s capable for DVS and has dedicated filter knobs, ha!
5miiksParticipantLow budget studio have never been as easy to get as today. If you get the right stuff you can produce like a pro, even on low budget!
Audio interfaces: If you don’t need any inputs I’d recommend getting the smallest one from Focusrite. VERY high quality for less than 100€. If you need couple inputs I’d also look towards to Yamaha AG03/06. AG03 is 120€ I believe and AG06 is 150€.
Monitors: Honestly I can’t recommend any low budget stuff here from my own experience. If you want low budget high quality audio you might wanna consider getting decent headphones first (AKG has some nice budget studio headphones for around 100€). BUT if you’re willing to spend 300-400€ on monitors I’d look for JBL LSRs, Rokit KRKs or Yamaha HSs. Those are all high quality imo for reasonable price. I always think a good audio output is a MUST if you want to produce high quality music.
MIDI keyboards: This is where you need to little think what you want. How many keys? Small or full sized keys? Any extra drum pads or so? If you want full sized keys Alesis has some decent and low priced keyboards from 25 keys to bigger sizes. Another equip I can recommend for FL Studio is Akai MPK mini mk2 (I owned this when I used FL). It has 25 minikeys (altho I think they’re nice for mini keys), 8 drum pads, pitch and mod control joystick and couple extras and imo this is pretty high quality equipment for such small price (around 100€). But as Vintage said you can get even 49 keys sized keyboards for very low prices from brands like M-Audio, Samson, Miditech etc…
As for retailers, I have ordered some studio stuff from Sweden from a store called Gear4music. They have pretty good prices and I’ve always been pleased with my order. Packed carefully, fast delivery and so on! And like Vintage said, Thomann is another good to look from price and warranty wise, but expect a returning hell and months of waiting if you need or product serviced or it has been broken when you get it :d
If you need anymore help don’t hesitate to ask! Have fun choosing 🙂
5miiksParticipant@Vintage it’s AG, not MG. MG is different lane from Yamaha. You once recommended it for me and I bought the 06 and I’m super happy with it. I was so pleased I even got the smaller 03 for my girlfriend.
So yeah +1 for Yamaha AG03/06! (I used to record XDJ-RX+RMX 500 setup with it too, btw!)
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5miiksParticipantHi there,
I’m actually pretty bad when it comes to computer specs etc. but I can give you my experiences production software wise.
I use MacBook Pro with specs:
-2,7 GHz Intel Core i5
-8 Gt RAMI use Ableton Live 9 and some ‘heavy’ plug-ins such as Waves Audio, Maschine 2.0, Kontakt etc.. Yet I haven’t encountered any CPU problems. On worst times my CPU have been at 40% but usually on finished tracks it’s around 15-30%, no crackles or any other problems. So atleast to me, it seems like your choice of computer is up to the job to work ez with Logic Pro. Oh, I should say that my tracks are max 10 track projects so if you’re looking to do some 20-30 track projects… I cannot guarantee your choice works well.
Also if you haven’t thought of this yet, get a decent soundcard if you don’t have one. By decent I don’t mean it needs to costs hundreds… There are MANY decent options within the price range of 100-200€ (Yamaha AG series are deffo my favorites from that price range)
Hope this helped even a little. Have fun with your choice! 🙂
5miiksParticipantThanks for the reply Terry! Glad to know it’s not supposed to work like this lol :p
The tonearm SHOULD be installed correctly as far as I can tell. Same goes for Seratos settings. I can’t really tell if my tonearm has damaged, it seems all fine to me. I guess the next step is to get new needle and see if that makes any difference. I’m gonna need more of them anyways so yeah..
5miiksParticipantDon’t think there is anything you’re missing about the XDJ-RX. I’d definitely get it over DJM x XDJ-700 combo. Separate media players and mixer just tends to be more expensive than all-in-one solutions. Btw it works as controller too for Rekordbox and Virtual DJ. I think there are some Traktor mappings too (altho XDJ-RX is strong as standalone system, not as controller…)
Imo RZ is just not worth the price and RX is definitely not a toy 🙂 Just quickly looking at both and comparing the price RX would be my choice but if you want the bigger platters.. well I can’t say nothing against that!
Your mac is definitely capable of running Rekordbox DJ just fine. DVS, not too sure. Sure it works with it but does it works perfectly? I dunno.
Hope this helped even a lil bit! 🙂 Have fun choosing!
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5miiksParticipantOps, I dunno why I said I have two of RP8000s when I only have one (can’t afford the second one yet, rip) Also, why I can’t find the edit button for my created topic? ;o
5miiksParticipantiLoud Micro Monitors from IK Multimedia is another option too 🙂
5miiksParticipantJust saying, I bought my XDJ-RX for 1,500€ and managed to resell it for 1,200€ after a year of use. Imo that’s pretty good value.
I honestly doubt you wouldn’t like XDJ-RX. It’s very easy to use and fast to learn/master (basically cause it’s missing lots of functions that software controllers gives). You just have to ask one question from yourself; is there any functions missing from XDJ-RX that you’d want to use? If not, you’re good to go.
STILL take a good look on both, MCX8000 and XDJ-RX before you choose. They’re very different even both works as standalone. Look at the functions they have, which suits better for you/how you want to DJ. Look into the future as well, do you think you’ll be happy with your choice after a year of use or so.
Also look at this topic if you haven’t read it yet yet http://www.digitaldjtips.com/topic/denon-dj-mcx8000-vs-pioneer-xdj-rx/page/2/ 🙂
5miiksParticipantHi and welcome!
Well firstly it is highly advisable to decide which software you want to use (Serato, Traktor, Rekordbox DJ etc..) or do you want standalone system like the XDJ-RX you mentioned. How about DVS (digital vinyl system) since you already own Tehcnics? From your options the DDJ-RX and MCX8000 are capable for that. So you could basically just plug your Technics to them (of course you’d need timecode vinyls and such).
But dang your budget, are you absolutely sure you want to put that much into first controller? But then you also say you have shoulder and neck problems (me too :<) so you most likely want controller with build in screens and those don’t come cheap. I’d definently cross the DDJ-RX out and focus on MCX8000 and XDJ-RX. I can speak for the XDJ-RX as I used to own one (btw my problems didn’t occur much using it so it was great). MCX8000 is very solid option too and MANY on these forums can recommend it as well. Another good option is Numark NVII but that doesn’t have standalone mixer or is even capable for DVS so… rip Technics.
I personally think MCX8000 might be the best solution for you if you want to use DVS system. If you just want to use real vinyls while being able to play digital files, XDJ-RX is solid option as well.
Lastly, there’s a new gear guide for 2017 to check out from the DDJT main site. I don’t want you to make the wrong choice with that HUGE budget for first controller 🙂
Have fun choosing!
5miiksParticipantWell I can personally say as I own RB as my ‘toy’ controller it’s very good one to start with. Rekordbox DJ imo isn’t good as Traktor or Serato but it’s new in the software market and has come a long road in short time and it’s being constantly updated. Anyways every software has aces in their sleeves, so does Rekordbox.
Hmm I’m kind of worried of your computer tho. As far as I recall Rekordbox is bit heavier than other software and do you mean you use Windows Vista? Looking at requirements for Rekordbox and it seems it isn’t compatible with Vista. Better make sure that you can actually use it! This is what it says on Rekordbox site:
Compatible OS (Windows) – Windows 10, 8.1, 7 (The latest service pack)
CPU – Intel® processor Core™ i7, i5, i3, Intel® processor Core™ 2 Duo 2.0GHz or above
Memory – 4GB or more of RAM5miiksParticipantOops, forgot that Reloops Terminal Mix 8 also comes with full version of Serato DJ and I think that is the cheapest option 🙂
5miiksParticipantYup you’re right, RB has the best value software/hardware wise. And you’re right, the next on the list is S2. If you’re looking for controller that comes with full version of Serato DJ, I think DDJ-SR, Denon MC6000 mk2 and Numark NV2 are first on the list (excluding Akai AMX).
But before anything, picking the RIGHT software is something to do.
Honestly I think if you want to use Serato but you’re fearing you’ll grow out of the intro version I think you will grow out of the intro controller too. So it might not be a bad idea to start with Serato Intro controller and upgrade for another controller when you feel the software/hardware isn’t enough anymore
5miiksParticipantMy knowledge on PA speakers isn’t really good but for example Rokits (btw those are sure shots that you can’t go wrong with!) are often used as studio speakers and that means they are or should be accurate. And in my knowledge PA speakers aren’t as accurate as studio speakers are (someone correct me if I’m wrong!). But in theory I believe yes they can improve your mixing quality as you SHOULD have more accurate sound.
I think someone like DJ Vintage can give you more professional answer here as he is sound engineer :p
5miiksParticipantWow seriously? I feel sorry for you 🙁 Yes definently you should be annoyed lol. I don’t used mixcloud myself so I dunno if that’s normal or not. What it is, is VERY DISREPECTFUL imo, not just towards to you but to whole DJ culture
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