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Thank you for all your comments and help. I have no more questions in my mind about chosing tracks to mix.December 10, 2015 at 1:00 pm in reply to: Identifing verse, chorus… to set cue points for mixing #2314971
Thank you for explanation about choruses and verses. I appreciated it. This explanation is what i needed. 🙂
Thank you all for your recommendation.
I am already doing that with 100 tracks that i picked. But the main problem is that tracks in psytrance goes mainly with bass in outros and intros. So when mixing outro&intro, basses and kicks should blend for mix to sound well. With tracks with basses and kicks from different keys, i can’t make a good mix.
1-) What do you recommend for the problem mentioned above?
2-) Can u explain “energy rating” a bit more? How can i rate energy levels? What do you mean by saying energy level?
3-) Does “compatible tracks” means tracks with easy blending sounds or tracks with similar journeys?December 10, 2015 at 12:25 am in reply to: Identifing verse, chorus… to set cue points for mixing #2314701
About mixing choruses, i think the same as you do. because it tires the audience. They would want to take a breath. But what do you think about mixing choruses for 2-3 tracks in a row? Does it cause a big problem?
Another problem is that, I think, right after a chorus i shouldn’t mix a intro because it causes a instant energy loss. So i would let the song to go into its own outro, then I mix in a intro of a new song. But when i do that with tracks with different keys, it doesn’t sound well. Because in psytrance a track generally goes with bass and kick drum in outro and intro. When basses and kick drums of tracks don’t have the same size and the key. Mix doesn’t sound well. How do u generally fix this problem?
Ok i understand what you said. But can you please explain how u decide when finding second song goes into nicely? Is it about sound? bass sound, kick sound and bassline type? Now i can only find song that goes well together, from same key note.December 4, 2015 at 5:36 pm in reply to: Identifing verse, chorus… to set cue points for mixing #2309551
Yes i totaly agree with you but as a start i am trying to get the basic rules. Creativity will come by experience.
For example right after a chorus going in with a intro of the new track cause the set lose energy. So it mustnt be done. I think there should be some basic rules lik this.
I also think that Dj mixing with these rules is the easiest and ordinary djing. The djs uses experience more than these rules are called veteran djs or great djs. Dont you agree wih me?
Can you explain what people mean by saying “know your music collection”? Should i know the melodies of tracks or bassline types of tracks or keys of them or what?
Hi Dom James,
Yes, you are felling true about me concentrating on technically excellant mix because i am new to djing and i am currently unexperienced for that. The more experience i have, the more experimental work i will do. Also times i was not djing and only listening to psytrance, i noticed that it interrupts my trance mood while i am dancing when dj doesnt care for harmonious transitions between tracks. So my first aim is experimenting how it will effect the audience when it is taken into account.
Thank you both for your replies. I found them really useful for my future practice.
So the path i am going to follow is:
1-) Using trial and error method with the aid of a tool like MIK and plan my sets earlier to my gig.
2-) Using trial and error method with the aid of my ear and plan my sets earlier to my gig.
3-) Improvising with experience at gigs without planning the sets 🙂
Thank you for your description. It is really helpful answer.
About mixed in key, i ve been told that it is the program which detects keys of the tracks most accurately. And there is also energy rating… I dont know what energy rating is and i want to learn if mixed in key’s energy rating is useful when choosing tracks to mix. Especially in psytrance.
Why i am so obsessed with mixed in key? Cuz without a tool like mixed in key, finding tracks to mix will take so much time. If it is useful i consider using it. There is no demo version of mixed in key so i need to ask people abot its usefulness.
Can u explain energy boost a bit? How it is done?
For the last, how many transition techniques do you use, is there any transition techniques these are used in a specific genre but are not used in another? For example for psytrance i use bass swap, lead swap, progressive eq mix, loop roll mix and mixes with some effects as drama/sweep fx or others.
Hi DJ Vintage,
So you recommend me to know collection well and use trial and error method quickly. This was the method i currently use.
About changing keys in the middle of a track, I know that changing key in the middle of a track doesnt sound well. But i ask if there is a common use as changing key by one or two notes after a phrase, or changing it by using an extra effect(delay, flanger, phaser…) by one or two notes after a phrase?
Thank you for your answer.
They say mixed in key is more than key matching. It matches keys, energy levels of the tracks… It matches tracks those have phrases compatible to mix. What do you think? Is it only about key matching?
Do you say that trial and error method is the best way and sometimes mixing tracks even with incompatible keys can also sound well?
I agree with you about the journey. Especially, In psytrance, i think it is the most important thing. I want to make all my transitions smooth and harmonic in order to have audience never come back from the journey he/she went in, till the end of the set.
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