First time using CDJs
August 29, 2016 at 3:40 am #2438071HayloParticipant
I hold a residence at a backpacker bar in New Zealand, which has proved great for me starting out as a DJ. I currently use my own DDJ-SB with serato on my Macbook, which is really basic but does the trick. This is all I have ever played on. I have managed to get a trial at a well-known club in the area, an hour long set at the start of the night (it won’t be very busy at all). However they won’t allow me to bring my own gear – I need to use their CDJ 2000s.
Can you offer any advice to me on how different it will be using these? Is it worth somehow bringing my Macbook along to use serato/is that even possible?
I am 100% confident mixing using Serato, and beatmatching using the waveforms, but I have had no experience on using CDJs.
I realise CDJs are industry standard, and realistically I have no other option in learning right now, but I am also concerned I will mess up the trial if I use it as a practice round!
Any advice is appreciated,
HayloAugust 29, 2016 at 7:48 am #2438151Terry_42Keymaster
I would plain tell them, that 90% of the world has accepted that CDJs are a thing of the past and you want to bring your controller as you can simply do more. The best clubs in the world (Ministry of Sound, Octagon, Palm Peach, Mocco beach club,…) all allow you to use your own gear to free your creativity. Tell them you need only 30min on your controller to show them and they understand.
If they are not going for that, be professional and tell them you do it, but if they want to hire you, it will cost more as your creative freedom is lessened by playing with their old gear.
As for playing on CDJs. Ask them if their CDJs are Serato ready (the 2000 CDJs are always, but the mixer has to be certified) and up to it. If they say yes, bring a USB hub and cables unless they tell you their tech will connect you. Make sure you have a full Serato license that is valid for use with CDJs (check on serato.com, log-in and your purchases).
If all that is valid, your Serato will work with the CDJs and mixer, then you can simply connect and play like on the SB. Even the knobs look similar, the downside will be, that there are no dedicated effects knobs, so you prolly will need to use the mixers effects (which suck on most DJMs compared to iZotope in Serato) and the channel filters. On 2000s looping is very limited and most likely you only have 3 hotcues available (if they work, it sometimes is hit and miss) everything else is the same as on the SB and also looks nearly identical. You can ignore the built in screens.
Get a high-res picture and the manual of the CDJs and DJM on pioneerdj.com and you can easily check the layout, so you find everything when there.
If the CDJs are not Serato ready then no problem. Download Rekordbox (for free, not the license version Rekordbox DJ). Open it up and transfer the prepared playlist(s) for your set onto a USB drive. It is very intuitive. Make a second USB drive as backup. Go there and put the USB drive in any of the CDJs and push the USB button near the USB slot. Push the LNK (or Link) button on the second CDJ. The displays will help you find a tune and show you the waveforms. Nexus players even have sync buttons and display the waveforms in color on the display along with the BPM etc. so you are fine to go. Of course you can do less than with Serato (hence why good clubs are ditching CDJs as they are overpriced relics) but the layout and style is very similar the SB. So generally speaking you should be fine if you stick to the basics (aka beatmatching, filter effects on the mixer and short loops).
I know the first part of this post sounds like “you can easily say that, you played 20 years and have a name to demand stuff I am new”. Honestly I have some guys I mentor and they were in similar situations. I gave them the same advise and it worked 2 out of 3 times. One of the clubs ditching the old CDJs actually and now demanding DJs to bring their own gear.
Be confident in yourself and your abilities and you will do fine. Be professional about it, do not sound desperate but have answers for them.
I myself I tell clubs simply if they want me to play on outdated gear my fee goes up 50% per hour to compensate for lost creative freedom.August 30, 2016 at 1:07 pm #2438641George WebbParticipant
Hey there Haylo
Can’t give you any advice cos I’ve never used CDJs either and I’m a old school Technics DJ! Have a private gig coming up at a bar where the gear is pioneer CDJs too so I kinda feel what you are sayin. If you are comfortable at beatmatching by ear then I reckon you’ll be fine and besides the CDJ2000s look to be serious kit and the screens at least will probably give you some familiarity. Maybe it’s a good idea to go and download the user manual from Pioneer and read up.
For me the problem is the opposite to you cos I learned on technics and have only ever used vinyl at club gigs and that was a while ago too. Back then you just rocked up with a bunch of records. I’ve got the digital stuff now and I use it alot in my own space, and it’s all good and all, but CDJs are just somethin I’ve never used. Just gotta figure out the best way to organise my music onto USB or even CD’s and then figure it out how to work it all when I get there..ouch
Best of luck!
g-dub (George)August 30, 2016 at 8:03 pm #2438721Allan MurrayParticipant
I would mention to them that you don’t necessarily need to re-wire the whole DJ booth as most Pioneer mixers have a spare channel you can plug into, even if all four channels are being used, you can still plug in to one of the four channels and flick the switch from CD/line to phono…
If they are still sticking to there guns, just organize you’re playlist in rekordbox and export to USB and you’re good to go.
Having used CDJ’s in the past the learning curve is about the same as controllers, you’ll be just fine on them.
When i upgraded from my old non rekordbox CDJ’s the 800MK2’s. to the 850’s, i had no problem getting the hang of them and rekordbox.
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