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  • in reply to: home made speaker help #2250011
    Caleb Grayson
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    Lawrence,

    xlr cables are low impendnece balanced cables with 3 wires. they are thin (low impedance) and thus can go long distances, but also pick up noise so they need a special transformer to balance them to cancel out the noise β€” which is what the 3rd wire is for.

    speaker cables are thick to handle much higher levels (powered levels) from the amplifier to drive the speakers. the longer these are the thicker they need to be.

    I don’t think you’re going to get enough power out of 6″ speakers to need to have them more than 10 feet away, but that’s just my guess.

    you’re in an exciting world of experimentation and I wish you the best.

    I’m not really qualified to give you detailed advice, but here are some sources where you can do further research:

    http://www.volvotreter.de/
    http://www.geocities.com/adrian_mack/homepage.html
    http://www.speakerstore.nl/index.php?l=en&pg=1
    http://www.mfk-projects.com/dipole_pa_system.htm
    http://www.burton-manor.co.uk/index.htm
    http://www.audiogrid.com/audio/
    http://photofile.ru/users/tda-audio/182333/
    http://photofile.ru/users/tda-audio/183265/
    http://www.egbeck.de/speaker.htm

    good luck!!

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 7 months ago by Caleb Grayson.
    in reply to: Headphones and mini faders in S8 #2229431
    Caleb Grayson
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    are you talking about cueing individual remix loop tracks?

    I’m not see a way to do that and I doubt you can since all the mixing (which includes cuing) is done in be mixer section post deck.

    in reply to: My controller soundcard(16 bit) vs 24 bit soundcard. #2211361
    Caleb Grayson
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    bit depth refers to the resolution of amplitude. the higher the bit depth the more dynamic range between loud and soft parts. this is important in orchestral music and movie soundtracks. it allows for quieter sounds to sound less distorted.

    one common effect is Bit Bistortion where the bit depth is lowered to 32, 16, 8, or even lower. the result is that it shapes the sound into square waves which is a type of distortion.

    you can think of a speaker pushing the air in and out. the bit depth is the number of positions between the maximum in and out position. a square wave sort of makes the speaker jump from all in to all out and back very very fast in a rough way. this is what can blow a speaker. a sine wave is smooth and more gentle. lower bit depth makes your waves more squarish.

    imagine your speaker can push out 12 inches and pull in 12 inches. the pattern of in and out vibration is determined by the co inaction of frequencies being played. if that pattern is play at have the speakers capacity of volume, it only moves between 6 inches in and 6 inches out. if you double the volume then it can play the full range of the speaker. the loudest parts will move it the full 12″-12″ spread me song that quieter parts will only travel the 6″-6″ spread or even 1″-1″ of the spread. if your recording is at a low bit forth then these quiet parts in the 1″-1″ spread will be sort of jumpy and squarish and sound like that Bit Distrotion effect.

    however, if your music is very loudβ€” compressed to make the softer parts more loud β€” like most dance music,bthen there is not much dynamic range to where you need to hear quiet parts in great detail, and the difference between 24 and 16 will probably not be noticed. yes, the very quiet parts will be more squarish, but they probably won’t be noticed on the dance floor as even they will be very loud compared to natural sounds.

    now in recording, you need more bits because you’re going to turn quieter recordings up on the mix and every time you increase the volume of a recording you are effectively lowering bit depth. 24 bits allows you to record lower to avoid overs or distortion from a signal being too loud (and squaring off the waves as the loudest part because ‘the speaker can’t go any further out or in’ squaring off the tops and bottoms of the waves) and still turn it up or normalize it and have good quality of dynamic range or bit depth.

    in other words, 24 bit allows you to record a sound that is very quiet and DOUBLE the volume 8 times and still have the amplitude resolution of a sound recorded at full 16bit.

    so if your tracks are recorded correctly they can be mixed down to 16bit and sound perfectly suitable for Electronic Dance Music.

    if you’re doing ambient binaural soundscapes on a high end PA like me, it’s probably not suitable. πŸ™‚

    β€”Caleb

    ps. Sample Rate is not a reference to amplitude resolution but frequency resolution. it’s how offten a sample of an analog sound is made when converting it to digital. in order to capture a particular frequency you need to capture it at both the high and low part of the wave so you need the sample rate to be twice the frequency of the wave you want to digitize. so 5k or 5,000 Hz (oscillations per second) needs a sample rate of 10k samples per second to capture it. a 44.1k sample rate captures up to 22.05 kHz β€” way beyond most human hearing.
    96k sample rate captures up to 48kHz frequencies, but tha means that 24kHz gets sampled 4 times and so it produces a more accurate sample. 12k gets sampled 8 whole times. 6k gets made up of 16 different samples. this is starting to be the range where human hearing is most sensitive (300-3k Hz).
    it also means the samples line up in time more accurately for a more phase aligned sampling or cleaner sound. ‘transparent’. ‘open’.

    but again this is most important when recording and if recording and mixing (producing) is done correctly on high sample rate and high bit rate equipment then playback need not be at such a high level.
    I do however think sample rate is more important than bit depth as phase distortion from a low sample rate causes more listening fatigue than amplitude distortion from a low bit depth (unless you take very very quiet material and turn it up 4 to 8 times).

    eventually when storage costs become irrelevant and processing power costs do as well, we’ll see 192kHz sample rate and 32bit depth become the norm. you have to realize how much power/speed is required to process a sample with 256 times the size (from 16bit to 24 bit) when adding effects or doing real time analysis for software controlled syncing and mixing multiple streams(decks and samples) each added dimension of bit depth (size of sample) and frequency depth (number of samples) exponentially adds demand to your system and we’re just not there yet in affordable processor capability.

    DJs really have the best deal as their requirements are so much less in terms of latency, bit depth, sample rate, and even file size than recording engineers or those playing live instruments through software (round trip latency).

    in reply to: Right PA System for Me #2207861
    Caleb Grayson
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    most defintely the gig determines the PA.
    big gigs will have one provided by the promoter/venue. so when you talk PA, you’re taking on a different role than DJ. wearing so many hats is tricky business.

    now for a small private function you can buy your own system and all you need is to test it out in a comparable room. if it sounds good to you then it’s as good as your opinion, but why not rent then, too?

    I’d only buy if the number of gigs/money your making/paying out makes owning more profitable.

    I just bought a small portable PA β€” 2 Bose L1 systems with 4 subs. it was an older model and used but in excellent condition. new it would have been over $10k but I got them for $2400. still a pretty penny that I have to pay off, but very portable and great to practice on.

    in reply to: Beginner Controllerism Setup #2202231
    Caleb Grayson
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    So it depends on how much of a geek you are β€” into taking the time to map all the controls to various parts of your software, which is where id begin. What software are you using. The software will determine probably 80% of your controller decisions.

    And the software is detentions day what you what to do β€” play an analog or midi instrument live (MainStage), produce (Live, Logic), perform with structured loops (Live), mix tracks (Serato, Traktor).

    Of course thisnisna rough description and all these sort of hybrid β€” you can play loops in MainStage which is the most sophisticated of the controller interfaces and yet not too loop production friendly but cheap and very good sound.

    I’d start off with the software and control it with your mouse and keyboard (all keyboards are controllers!) and then that will put you on a situation where you have the need for a control that isn’t available and then you’ll have some purpose in your purchase. You may really want a jog wheel and use it to do something totally different. I have the Apogee GiO and use the expression pedal mapped to multiple controls β€” you can is that as a cross fader on your foot for example.

    (i mentioned MainStage because no one else will. It’s more popular with live performers of guitars and keyboards, but for $30 you get all of Logic Pro X’s plugins, synths and loops. The arpegeator is deep, the synths great, the drum machine/sequencer nice. It’s basically a digital mixer with ‘unlimited’ buss routing and layering and instance recall of customizable presets and the best controller GUI that I’ve used and I had CuBase on the Atari ST in like 1985.

    in reply to: Traktor Kontrol S8 Live Recording #2190021
    Caleb Grayson
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    Sounds like you were using the loop recorder instead of the mix recorder.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 12 months ago by Caleb Grayson.
    in reply to: Best Controller sans Audio Interface For Traktor #2189141
    Caleb Grayson
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    Oh right. I forgot about the alcohol.

    It’s why i ran the subs on Aux 6.

    I got to run this array system from Renkus-Heinz β€” two IC vertical arrays and 6 subs β€” for luaus and such at this resort I worked at Maui.

    It was just so smooth.

    20x my Bose system new. It was set up so that one sub faced rear to cancel out bass so as not to kiss off the neighbors.

    Ok. So I give up. I should just get the S8 and call it a day.

    in reply to: Best Controller sans Audio Interface For Traktor #2188501
    Caleb Grayson
    Participant

    Thank you DJ V. for the thorough response!

    Of course I know what you say to be true. I just spent the last 2 years in Maui running sound at a club and our system was not super sonically exceptional. It’s just that while it was only filled with Mackie, you could notice quite a difference with the quality of DJ input.

    For example one professional had tracks that sounded exceptional and I told him it sounded like they were mastered. He said that they were!

    I don’t think most people will or even can notice the difference in a conscious way, but I do believe there’s a fatigue and a subconscious awareness that ‘normal people’ notice and it directly affects their mood.

    But you’re right that 44.1k/24bit is beyond material that I’ll likely use (except for my own production) in venues I’ll likely have access to.

    (We have a lot of clubs in he US β€” a lot of mediocre ones.)

    The Bose L1’s do sound really good for small rooms and I have a nice DI box for them fed by the Duet. Maybe my Mixtrack is all I need. It just doesn’t have enough buttons!

    What would be a controller sans audio interface that would be a good upgrade to the Mixtrack 2? Mixtrack 3?!

    (Tracktor DJ for my iPhone6 has actually been a lot of fun! Maybe I’ll figure out how to implement oscTouch. I just don’t like having so many devices and the phone can be set down in an odd place wife easily.)

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