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ParticipantI don’t have one, but I almost got a 4Trak off Gumtree for $300 negotiable (it was seriously used however), so make sure you have a look at eBay, Gumtree (if you’re in Australia), etc. for cheap used ones.
Participant’02 Mazda Premacy 2.0L. Planning to save for a Nissan 350Z or a Mazda RX8 or maybe even a MY07 Hyundai Tiburon (some countries call it the coupe). Looks good with cheap insurance, until people look at the steering wheel and realise it’s a Hyundai!
ParticipantIt looks like just scum on the metal, I have a full metal ultrabook that gets pretty grimey after a while. I might consider asking for more photos and maybe even a video to prove everyhing works. Numarks are pretty decent build quality, though (I read the forum post on the beer spilled on some guy’s N4 if you’ve read it) from what I’ve heared. Any of you guys had experience with Numarks?
ParticipantIt looks like you are going in the modular directon. I would suggest a mixer controller first, as it is definitely more essential, but that’s the great thing about modular; it lets you grow your own way.
I find it hard to work with the X1 because it is a really odd layout but it kinda works if you have two, controlling 4 decks with a mixer in between, but that’s out of your sights now. The Behringer CMD-MM1 is a modular mixer controller that comes in at $189 at DJ City, maybe less if you look around. It isn’t Traktor brand, but I find Traktor controllers really expensive for what they are. If you are looking for a pad based controller, the Behringer CMD LC-1 and CMD DC-1 are good options, both comeing in at the same $189.
I assume all these won’t conflict with Traktor brand controllers, but don’t take my word for it.
ParticipantThe Gemini G4V is a serious option at tbout half the price of Traktor gear with similar specs. I have been juggling this up with a few other controllers for a while and am going to buy pretty soon. Always check eBay, and more importantly, Gumtree, as you will ALWAYS find bargains.
What state are you in? There is a pretty schmick Numark 4Trak at Byron Bay for $300 O.N.O. on Gumree.
ParticipantI have scoured Gumtree Australia and found a Numark 4Trak in good condition for $300 AUD negotiable. It is in Byron bay, which is very near the next state (and states are massive in Australia), and is about a 9 hour drive away from my home in Sydney (not including toilet breaks, rest stops, etc.) , but I guess a holiday wouldn’t hurt! (the seller has offered to ship as well)
This is a $600 AUD controller RRP and is actually better because it is $100 less than the G4V, and it is actually an officially suppourted Mixvibes controller, and neither the G4V or the Beatmix 4 are officially suppourted (yet…). You can use Cross’s MIDI mapping/MIDI learn feature, but the 4Trak has guaranteed results. I also like how the FX/Filter section is seperate. If it is mounted in it’s correct spot, it has a nice angle and it also hangs over the I/O connectors, both protecting them from abuse and letting you press the laptop right up to the unit. And if you don’t like it there, you can put it anywhere you want!
It also has all the I/O I could ever possibly need (XLR Balanced output, RCA output, booth output, and inputs galore) plus it has a standalone mixer if I ever can afford CDJs. Full length pitch fader, replaceable crossfader, user assignable stuff, touch strip needle drop, VU meters, the only thing it hasn’t got is sample pads, aalthough I could always remap keys or buy a modular sample thing.
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http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/byron-bay/other-books-music-games/numark-4trak-dj-controller/1047020652I know a guitar will never make you rock, but this is my best shot in this price range at the moment.
ParticipantCan’t find a thing in Australia, but that’s to be expected I guess…
ParticipantI’ve had a look on eBay and Gumtree (the Australia only version of eBay, which usually has what you want), and came up with nothing. There is a Numark N4, but from the US, so it will be difficult to get warranty. It also totals up to over $450 AUD with postage and whatnot, so I think it will be better to buy something new.
Also, I researched the Reloop Beatmix 4 and it was only just announced at Musikmesse 2014 less than a month ago. Tihs is why I couldn’t find for sale anywhere! I will probably wait until we get the Beatmix 4 in Australia and official prices are announced. It is predicted to go on sale in the US in late July. From currency exchange, it’s 299 euro RRP translates into roughly $440-$450 AUD, which isn’t too bad considering it comes with the full version of Serato DJ, worth $120 AUD. However, the N4, at the same price, comes with no software at all. This is why it is off my list.
If I get the Gemini G4V, I will most likely buy Cross DJ (not Cross), which only costs me $55-$60 AUD, making it $455-$460 AUD with it’s $400 AUD price tag. I personally prefer the Gemini, but I will buy the Reloop if it comes around that $450 AUD price tag. I cacn always keep the software and sell the controller for a G4V!
ParticipantThanks, I will start looking around fo used stuff before I commit to new stuff. The problem with used products, however, is that the Reloop comes with SeratoDJ included and that won’t be able to be sold with the unit, so I will have to buy DJ software. Cross is cheap enough, anyway, so I will snatch something up if I find it cheap.
I presume by 4 deck, you mean 4 channels, but with only a 2 channel mixer and a switch.
ParticipantAlso, I am completely open to suggestions. I can’t have looked at all the internet with detail, so if you guys have words of wisdom on 4 chanel controllers under $500AUD (preferably under $400AUD), please let me know!
ParticipantInteresting. Was the G4V in Mukimesse a prototype (before release) or ther real deal. For example, the Gemini Slate 4 was at NAMM I think, but that was announced AAAGGGEEESSS ago and they are still making improvements for the full production moedel. I might head over to DJ City, or Store DJ soonish so that I can physically see them and try them out (DJ shops are amazing!).
Also worth noting that I haven’t mentioned before is that the Gemini G4V has VU meters on each channel as well as output. This isn’t too much trouble as most DJ software has virtual VU meters (havent checked Serato yet, though) and even if I did want a physical VU meter, I can just make one in lne with the RCA output (this will be analogue not digital).
I would like to prioritise my software first, but I simply do not know. I have Cross LE and am going to get VDJ8 Home soon (don’t you love free full versions) to try it out, but I heard Serato only works with a controller plugged in. Is this true?
ParticipantOkay, slow down. Is Reloop a reliable brand? I know you say the Beatmix has better build quality, but the G4V is made from heavy metal. Is Gemini really that bad?
I can’t find the jogwheel sise for the Gemini G4V, but from demos I’ve seen, they look nice and weighty. How does Reloop compare?
I will probably map either one when I buy it to Mixvibes Cross (my favourite by far), or buy VirtualDJ as I’ve always been a fan. I don’t like Serato (too many plugins that you need to buy with FX and Video), although outofbox pro version would be great, saving the money for those plugins.
Although the Reloop’s faders might be higher resolution (not surre on this one), they look a lot smaller. I hate when you see controllers with tiny faders (bigger the better!).
I also just noticed that the Beatmix 4 has only one maaster RCA output and nothing else. The Gemni has master RCA, balanced master XLR, booth RCA, and auxilliary input all behind the unit.
The Gemini does look more full featured, but is the build, jogs, etc. up to scratch with the Reloop? (no pun intended!)
ParticipantThanks a lot for the clarification. I was tossing theese two up, but I think the G4V is the better bet for me.
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