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ParticipantThank you DJ Vintage for your response,
I was looking at the XDJ-R1 and thought that it didn’t appear to have the waveform visible on the 2 deck parts, that’s something that’s a bit of a let down if they don’t have it.
I think the appeal of the XDJ-RX for me personally is the big screen that allows you to see the the waveforms clearly and that it has the rekordbox software built in etc, I also like how it features a lot of the effects and colour effects etc similar to a higher end Pioneer mixer. I would like to be able to go onto Rekordbox on my macbook for example, and set a few hot cues to then be able to access them when using CDJS/ Controllers, and you may have heard me say in other posts that I was reluctant to go for the controllers. I have a DJM-600 mixer, which I would eventually like to upgrade to an 800 model, and I might go for a pair of second hand CDJ-850s, as long as I can create cue points on Rekordbox and access them using the 850s. I had a pair of CDJ 850s there for a while and didn’t even notice the button that says call/cue/loop, so maybe thats how I would access cue points ive pre-made on rekordbox?
Thanks man! 🙂
ParticipantThanks Terry for the reply!
I’m quickly coming to think that going for the 850s is most definitely the right choice! Do you feel then that I should be more than safe sticking to the CDJS as I originally planned? thats very cool that you’ve been getting some gigs in Europe!
ParticipantCheers Mat! I’m honestly not too sure about Rekordbox I’ve only started using it like this past 2 months, I think it would probably be wise going for the 850s, is it true that the 1000s aren’t compatible with Rekordbox?
I’ve just been taking a wee look at the controllers online and I seem even more against them now, I’m just not ready for them yet, I enjoy sticking to CDJs so without trying to be too ‘hip’ i’ll probably go for the 850s and benefit from the USB port. I need to get caught up on using rekordbox to it’s full advantage!
ParticipantThank you DJ Vintage! you sure know your stuff about all this, keep me in the loop 😉 of any helpful blogs or posts you write up!
ParticipantThanks DJ Vintage 4 your support!
Would you say that if I stick to that practice of only letting it reach 1-2/3 orange LEDs (red in my mixers case as there is only green and red in terms of colour) when it’s hitting the higher notes/ volumes of my tracks I should be alright?
I know most mixers today use that green, orange and red colour code but as my DJM600 is an older model it only goes green up to red, and I want to be able to apply the correct practice as other successful DJs do without feeling that I need to go fork out money on a DJM800+ mixer so I “know” im correctly using the mixer right in club or bar environments.
What I would do quite a lot is skip through the cued song I’m about to mix in and find a point where the track is at it’s loudest part and make sure that the sound level/volume is lighting up the same amount of lights as the live track playing out loud. If that is matching I then go back and re-work my EQs so that my cued track is as subtle and unnoticeable as possible for when I go to mix it in!
Appreciate the advice! 🙂
ParticipantYes DJ Vintage, both ears were covered by the headphones, which is the normal way I mix in my bedroom, when I said perfect I meant the second tune was started at the precise point in time I wanted it to (in the headphones), and I pulled up the fader for maybe about 2 seconds then pulled the first tune’s fader down, that is when the 2 seconds of silence happened, then the sound of the second tune came in! what confused me a bit though was the fact that with both tune’s faders up at full briefly, surely there shouldn’t have been any moment of silence?
And the venue sound system’s subs and top end speakers where positioned about a meter away from the booth, I did pick up on the fact that it sounded very quiet to what I expected a DJ booth to sound like, not really noticing that all the sound was coming from the speakers in front of the booth!
The other DJs did say to me that my mixing was fine was the honest ones told me that they did notice the delay, and I noticed it more than anyone! I get now that I will need to rely on my booth monitor always in future, and I’ll need to switch back to the basic single ear monitoring method periodically / listening to the cued track’s channel only to make sure the beats are going at the perfect times!
Thanks for the reply man! 🙂
ParticipantTry working with some kind of producer friend if you have any to come up with a good intro using Abelton or something! 🙂
June 24, 2014 at 12:59 pm in reply to: New DJ – Need some help with deciding on my set up CDJ's or Controller? #2038783Participanthey djrizki, I know it wasn’t me who asked this question but it is related to what you’re talking about. I was looking at the Pioneer R1 controllers, and whilst I know they aren’t decks, they still have the cdj function as well as being the controller etc I’m sure you know the one I’m on about,
what I really wanted to know is that, if I was buying this R1, for around £800, over what I actually was going to buy, which is the Pioneer 800’s with a 650 or 1000 mixer I think second hand, do you think It would be wiser buying the R1?
It has similar features to the Pioneer CDJs, and I want to know could I learn the basics of Pioneer 1000’s through my controller? i think that’s what someone else asked above, but I want to feel confident that I can mix with normal Pioneers anywhere I go, so if investing in the CDJs for a lot more money is the right thing to do I can wait, but everyone is telling me is fading out and soon everything will be controller frenzy!Appreciate any response! 🙂
June 22, 2014 at 6:48 pm in reply to: New DJ – Need some help with deciding on my set up CDJ's or Controller? #2038545ParticipantHey man, you’re never to late to DJ as long as you’re under 50 in my opinion, I still see big names rocking it and they’re 45+
I’ve been using CDJs for maybe 4-5 years and am focusing on getting Pioneer 800s after being advised from a number of people that I would be saving much more money sticking to the 800’s than splashing out for the 1000’s & the mixer, and that the 1000’s only have a few different features that I probably wouldn’t even ever use that much, so I’m aiming to get them.
Reflecting back on my years of just literally practicing in my bedroom, I kind of wish that I actually built up more money and got the Pioneers & mixer in sooner, thinking that If I had have done, I may be savvy on them and out mixing in clubs, but there’s no point regretting it, I just gotta aim to do it now, it’s so expensive though, my CDJs were 500 (American Audio CK-1000s) and they virtually have the two decks and a mixer all built into one machine, and they’ve lasted me 5 years with only 2 minor breaks/faults.
When I ask people on advice for getting the Pioneers, they keep directing me towards getting a controller, top range for maybe £800 tops, and that that is the way that DJ-ING is going, but I disagree, I hate the look and feel of the controllers, I feel like I’m cheating or something, even when I’m not, but I just don’t want to look back and regret not having learnt the traditional way with the Pioneers, and personally I can’t see every club in the world suddenly getting rid of all pioneers, it just wont happen in my opinion even though technology is changing every 2 seconds!
The price I’m looking at to get new 800’s and a second hand mixer, well, it’s roughly around £2000-3000 tops, & I have £15 in my pocket and no job, so if you want my opinion, I’d say you might even be safer just waiting until you have a bit more money and go for second hand pioneers, even models before the 800s, it’s just that I wish now I got Pioneers earlier, and if technology is going the way it’s going, you’d be safe starting with the industry standard, so you’re not spending years learning with the CDJS, to then move to the Pioneers etc, if you get me?
Let me know if you need anymore advice, and btw, I’m still making mistakes on CDJS, and I’ve been practicing like daily for 2-3 years flat as a hobby, so it’s like an instrument! practice makes perfect!
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