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  • Arkadiusz Mikina
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    Yeah, it would hard to imagine.

    I was thinking about all this analog vs digital recently. And not only in DJing but overall, in our lives.
    Just think about it:
    -money
    -photos
    -heat at home
    -lighting everywhere
    -soon transport (analog horses vs Tesla powered cars)
    -analog telephones vs gsm
    -knowledge (analog encyclopedia vs google.com)
    -paper letters vs emails
    -typing machine vs computer
    and so on….

    I mean….will anyone be going back to analog in the above? I really doubt it. Digital is just so much more convenient.
    Maybe once in a while ‘analog/legacy way’ is nice (have a fire to sit around or drive on horses or browse paper printed photos) but only as a nostalgy thing and/or maybe for a very small percentage people who are….well….ultra hardcore (think of Amish community, ‘vinyl-only-the-rest-is-not-DJing DJs’ and so on).

    Arkadiusz Mikina
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    haha
    cool Phil 😛 😀

    in reply to: Please share your experience with MCX8000 #2399701
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    Mega stuff Grant, many thanks for your feedback.

    Any other MCX users that can relay their experience with owning and using this unit here please?

    keep spinnin

    in reply to: where to sell DJ gear? XDJ-RX #2397881
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    Hey Alfie

    -2 xdj1000 + djm900nxs for 1500gbp? That sounds like a scam or a used/worn out units dude. Decks.co.uk asks 1500 for two xdj1000s alone + 1300 for the 900 which amounts to 2800. If you can grab it new for half the price then…..you know how to look for good price :O Show us the link plz.
    Even then (1500gbp deal) though you will be getting yourself an inferior setup imho (when compared to 950gbp mcx for example). I understand – all personal preference and I respect that, cool. But the argument ‘I don’t like looking at the screen’? Then don’t look at it, mix by ears 😉 Turn the screen off (I think Pio still hasn’t implemented that feature) or go into Browse screen straight after you have loaded up a track.
    Remember, xdj-rx has one screen with parallels so waveriding is possible and tempting. MCX8000 will never give you parallels nor serato face (close your laptop, turn off the screens and off you go).

    -If you can get this for 1500 then fine. But if not then…..don’t buy a Pio mixer. They are known to sound mediocre at best and really only popular because CDJs reign, that’s all. Denon X600 is far better mixer and will match the hot signal from CDJs/XDJs much better then any (!) Pio mixer. It will sound significantly better.

    -Now, you prefer Pio hardware and don’t see much difference between xdj-rx and mcx apart from 4 channel mixer and 2 screens but there are many more differences and pros of mcx8000. You have to remember that 2 screens won’t give you parallel waveforms which, from what I can see, would solve your biggest gripe of waveriding you experience with xdj-rx. Plus mcx has dvs (xdj-rx will never ever support that as it has hardware limitation for that), much richer feature set (Flip, Slicer, PitchNtime)-you’re not interested in features ok, is all metal and not plastic like Pio gear + sounds amazing and noticeably better then any Pio controller. It has some drawbacks but most of them will hopefully be resolved with firmware update.

    All in all get what feels best!
    holla 😀

    in reply to: where to sell DJ gear? XDJ-RX #2397781
    Arkadiusz Mikina
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    great idea Vintage

    greetinx

    in reply to: where to sell DJ gear? XDJ-RX #2397291
    Arkadiusz Mikina
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    Vintage
    When are you getting the mcx8000 plz?
    Can you post your experience with using it when you get it and use it for a while plz?

    greetinx

    in reply to: Serato Whitelabel – Current status #2396441
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    Thank you Terry
    cheers

    in reply to: Serato Whitelabel – Current status #2396041
    Arkadiusz Mikina
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    great! thanks Terry

    This really sounds cool. I think that a combo of (free) whitelabel with Serato gear + paid Amazon Prime (Music) sounds like a really good solution.

    One last question if you don’t mind please Terry.

    As far as music exploration and suggestions in Amazon Music player you mentioned. How does it work exactly?
    I mean, the Amazon Music is an app that has to be installed on the laptop (Macbook in my case) in order to use or is also available on the amazon website after having logged in or both are possible?
    Then when happens? Say you search for a track on Amazon and play/cue it in Amazon Music player (which is installed on a laptop or on the website kind of a player) and when it finishes to play the player with automatically play suggestions based on that track or something?

    many thanks for detailed feedback
    much appreciated

    in reply to: Serato Whitelabel – Current status #2394071
    Arkadiusz Mikina
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    mega! thanks Terry

    Prime Music service sounds more and more appealing I must admit
    last question though:
    Is Amazon Prime app available for OS X i.e. using it on MacBooks or only phones/tablets please?
    thx

    in reply to: Serato Whitelabel – Current status #2393641
    Arkadiusz Mikina
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    thanks for opinion guys

    It seems to me that Serato has gone a bit too restrictive with this 64 thing- I mean common. If one has a verified account on Serato after buying their product, it should be ok for me to listen to music from white label in hight quality where I want e.g. in the car or from a mobile player while on the go and not only when ‘physical controller is connected’. They must have had their reasons I suppose (probably were afraid of people abusing white label free music resource).

    Thanks for the tip on Prime Music Terry – may be very handy. I wouldn’t have thought of this resource tbh.
    This the ‘Prime Music’ part comes under the ‘Amazon Prime’ membership or does one have to pay for it extra apart from paying for Prime?
    So all in all, Prime Music is a really good player and suggestion tool right? There is no music available ‘for free’ when signed up to this service right?

    thanks

    in reply to: Serato Whitelabel – Current status #2393331
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    that well may be true Vintage.
    Are you using Pulselocker at all ?

    in reply to: Serato Whitelabel – Current status #2393291
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    Mega, thanks Terry for an update.

    1. Great feedback. Good to know that white label can and should be used as supplementary source of (free and legal) music. Also the fact that there is some stuff that is not available elsewhere is quite an intriguing thing. I guess my question was boiling down to the fact if one use whitelabel as the only source of music – which you clarified, many thanks. When you are logged to this portal/resource can you actually preview play tunes on there by clicking ‘Play’ on there?

    2. Thanks for your tip on how to go around the 64 issue. Great idea. Also, I understand that these files have different extension (wl.mp3) – can I download these tracks to a computer, then copy them to a mobile player (cowon J3) and play them there with headphones while for example running ? (obviously in 64 quality)

    Yeah, it surprises me that few people talk about this feature of Serato ecosystem (or even know about it). I think that Serato is not marketing it properly with their software. Didn’t Traktor have similar feature with beatport by any chance?
    8-15 bucks per month + utilizing whitelabel sounds very reasonable! thanks for tip Terry
    holla

    in reply to: Denon MCX8000 opinion/release #2388521
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    Volkswagen scandal? VW intentionally changed software to cheat on emission so that they could put better figures in brochures. It was intentional.
    Do you think Denon intentionally made Engine crash and/or analyze songs incorrectly? I just don’t see the connection you are trying to present.

    GM killing people? OK, let’s see. 124 people died (as you seem to point out by shouting) while 30 000 000 cars were recalled (30 million). That’s 0.0004%.
    Now, with mcx8000, the issues are with…..every single unit so 100% right?
    How on earth can you claim connection between both cases? I mean how?
    You’re totally missing the point.
    In other words: imagine that GM is releasing 30 000 000 cars knowing that they turn off or lose power or malfunction on a regular basis. They will most definitely manifest that during a test drive or in very early stages of using the car by new owner.
    Do you think if they did that they would be still operating or would they go bankrupt because no one would buy their cars in the first place.
    And remember that Denon is pro gear and therefore people have pro expectations of their products and also prices are ‘pro’. It works the same everywhere. Denon is not Fiat in DJing.
    I don’t share your view of excusing Denon ‘just because’. Just imagine that you are a product development manager for mcx8000 and you get the late pre production model (almost identical to production version) and you notice Engine crashes and analyzes songs badly. What would you think/do? Would you release it? What do you think your supervisors would say to this?
    I personally wouldn’t.
    +
    Remember, that all non-laptop DJs are always using the same argument (and are afraid of) when dissing digitalDJing that don’t want to switch to laptop DJing as laptops crash so……yes, you have guessed it: stability of a DJ ecosystem is one of the major concerns/characteristics that people pay attention to.

    And record? I don’t agree with you. I would just implement that – just as simply as xdj-rx has done it nearly 1.5 years ago. Even if it had to put the price up by $50 (which I doubt it would cost that much) it would great.
    And now, if someone asks you have to answer: ‘no, you can’t record music on this DJ system’. Amazing job, really. You can play, get creative and everything but then….it’s all lost.
    Also, I don’t understand your way of thinking. I personally believe that if a product does more things then less things it is better. Especially when competition has done it long time ago so it’s not even a case of coming up with a solution to particular issue.
    And ‘DJs not really wanting to record their sets’? Right, right…..

    in reply to: Denon MCX8000 opinion/release #2388181
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    I want to agree with you but I just can’t.

    This is because the examples you give are examples of minor niggles (‘bugs’) which simply cannot be found/recognized in testing before releasing the product.
    Engine crashing and not analyzing songs properly are not minor niggles by a long shot. It would come up in every beta testing before releasing the product. They are also major problems which are seriously compromising the use of the product and not minor niggles – imagine a car which during testing loses power or simply turns off –> do you think that this car manufacturer would release the car like that and thought: ‘we’ll deal with it later on/after car has been released with a major recall/engine ECU update?’ Nah…
    Now tell me I’m wrong.

    Which also brings me to conclusion that….Denon must have known about these major issues? And still release it? I just cannot comprehend that…

    Todd, what I think they didn’t thought thru is the way XDJ-RX handles recording. It also has 2 usb slots and when you want to record you simply press record on the other usb/memory stick.
    MCX8000 has 2 USBs – why on earth they didn’t implement that?

    Vintage,
    I understand that changing built in effects in hardware mixers is not done. That is fairly understandable (although I can see a company willing to implement that by using firmware – simply hook up laptop to mixer and change the effects. Yes, they physical writings on the mixer will not match but a user will know that and will be able to recognize which effects are where).
    But here we have a display (and heavy software reliance) where names of effects are displayed above ‘generic knobs’
    so it wouldn’t be hard at all to implement that functionality, don’t you think? Just start up Denon MCX8000 management on a laptop, hook up usb cable, and exchange the effect to your liking – which you would download from Denon’s website). Or am I just thinking wrong?

    holla

    in reply to: Denon MCX8000 opinion/release #2388051
    Arkadiusz Mikina
    Participant

    Mat, can you please past in links with the info/reviews you are referring to?

    Vintage, thanks for the tip on how to record….although it strikes me that Denon hasn’t thought this thru? Especially when they must have had xdj-rx before them when designing mcx8000.
    Also, how is this possible that Denon (i.e. professional DJ hardware company) hasn’t tested properly everything before releasing the unit? I mean….really?

    🙂

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