Papa Bear

D-Jam, post: 15764, member: 3 wrote:
I figure as long as I’m not giving it out to everyone, I should be able to do whatever I want with what I legally paid for.

And here is the problem, which I see in today’s world.
Publishers and governments do not see the customer in possession of what he paid for, but merely “leasing” it.
Meaning, you buy the movie, but you don’t own a copy of the movie but the license to view it.
With this understanding comes the (in those institutions way of thought) that altering it, remixing, shortening or peeing on the booklet changes the product itself and is to be pursued by law.

What really pisses me off is the fact that everybody on the planet is (thanks to ACTA and others) under general suspicion and state/police institutions are allowed to sniff my computer and everybody else’s just to have a look whether you are doing bad things or not.
I mean WTF? If I sneak into your bedroom and watch you 6ang your wife, just to make sure you are treating her according to the law, I clearly am a criminal. But THEY are allowed to? Sorry, this is a major break of privacy, and it happens now, and all we can do is sit there helplessly and wait what comes next.

Phil Morse, post: 16416, member: 2 wrote: Fascinating thread…

Why so, in your opinion? 😉

Hm, I have to agree with the Hess 😉

You cannot turn&twist the earcups, and as DJ Hessler mentioned, this dual cable solution will surely hinder you in doing whatever you have to behind your gear, you’ll be fiddling around with them all the time.

Additionally, the unit’s pricing opens up for alternatives from Panasonic, Reloop, Pioneer, Sony, Audio Technica and a lot others.

Summary: For Audio/HiFi enjoyment they might be okay, but for DJing rather not.
One would not DJ with a Bose headphone either, would you? 😉
(Though I have seen that too and almost busted my ass laughing… geez 😀 )

Welcome aboard the command center of my battle barge 😉

My gear on display 😉 (and sorry about not hiding the cables):
Acer 17,3″ i5 8GB Ram 2GB G-RAM Notebook
Denon DN-MC6000
Denon DN-SC2000 (2x)
Akai LPD-8 (will soon get a brother 😉 )
Audio Technica ATH-700 Pro
Customized Desktop PC (tons of hardware 😉 )
Samsung Syncmaster 21″ (2x)
Wacom Cytiq 12WX
Canon Eos 450D / 24-105mm/4 L IS / EX430II
Teufel Concept E Magnum PE wired to both Desktop & Notebook.
Sub is just out of the picture 😉
Uhm… custom desk lamp?

😉

RB75, post: 16062, member: 85 wrote: …its not a metal chassis. If you were to abuse both controllers the same way (eg not put them in padded bags to protect them when transported and just throw them around instead of placing them down), then the Denon gear would undoubtedly outlast the S4. The thing to remember is that if you look after your gear it will be fine.
As a new DJ, I doubt you would be bothered that the S4 does not have booth out and is larger and cannot run without a PC. As I see it the S4 is excellent for most applications you would encounter, however if you need more flexibility then the the choice would be the Denon.

Yeah, but I just like the feel of the metal and the build quality, you know, gives me a nice feeling everytimee I switch it on.
The features comparison, I also agree, can be looked up all over the internet, especially those two (and together with the Vestax VCI-400) will have been compared all over the web.

He should download the Phil’s controller guide … btw, Phil, if you read this, why not post a download link somewhere here in the forum for all the newies who have not come to get the facebook action? 😉

I have become a complete Denon fanboy, since I bought my Denon setup around christmas.
Build quality is better IMHO because it is fashioned of metal and feels really heavy duty.
But, agreeingly, the spaces between knobs and buttons sometimes seem a bit tight-
try them is the best I can suggest. You already have narrowed your choice down on those two so when you feel you’re in a good mood go and hit it!
(or, when you’re from germany or europe, order them at thomann.de or other onlineshops you know take back returns easy, and try them two weeks at home!)

If you have questions about the Denon, feel free to ask; though, I gotta admit, DJ Hessler is a real Denon expert 6itch 😉 who knows what he’s talking about 😀

Oh, yeah, some buttons glued ontop of an iphone, and now we have a midi-controller which can control…things with its gyro-sensors?
Sorry, I am open to almost all technical gadgets but THIS is writte nonsense with capital letters in my book.