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  • in reply to: Help ! Which controller should I buy ? #2549271
    Swagger Lee
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    I’m told there are very few people friendlier than me. 🙂

    If you are just starting I personally would never buy the top end controller

    My problem… well it’s two-fold: First I have a problem with the use of the word “never.” And second I don’t really believe in the “best practices” one-size-fits-all school of advice giving. And I even worked in customer support (albeit briefly) in the tech industry. While I agree that there are many scenarios that are similar, very rarely are any two the same. If he was just asking for “Top DJ Controllers for Beginners”… well that information is just a Google search away isn’t it? (With nicely illustrated results.)

    Contrary to what the title might imply… in the OP’s actual post he was asking about a very specific set of criteria. He further elaborated with questions about very specific hardware.

    Have you ever been on the phone with either technical support… or even just your bank… or the phone company… and you’re asking a specific question and somebody’s reading you answers from a sheet that have nothing to do with the question you’re asking?

    Kinda my point…

    He wasn’t asking about “the basics” he wasn’t asking about a “starter controller”. He wants to use stems and remix decks. Doesn’t matter if it’s easy or hard… all that matters is that’s what he wants to do. And if he wants to do it badly enough… he’ll figure it out.

    I say all this without any malice at all. I say it because it’s true.

    Imagine going into a shop looking for a DJM-900 and a couple of CDJs… and the kid’s trying to sell you on a DDJ-RB.

    That’s kinda my point. 🙂

    in reply to: Help ! Which controller should I buy ? #2549171
    Swagger Lee
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    What is his budget? Have you not seen? He’s looking at the S8 and the XDJ-RX! So please stop recommending the S2 to the guy! 🙂

    Contrary to the mod’s belief I think it’s a mistake to start out with a cheaper “beginner’s” DJ controller. He’s not going to go through five or ten DJ controllers throughout his career. He’s not even going to HAVE a career… He just wants *one* definitive controller. Doesn’t matter if Traktor “feels right” to him… he’ll never know that another software might’ve been better because he’ll never use another software.

    If he gets one of the best hardware kits and the software to go with it… then he can just keep plugging away at it until he’s either mastered it or gotten tired of playing around with it. Then he can just sell it and move on with his life. Maybe take up canoeing or something…

    I think the S8 is a fine choice. Not TOO expensive… versatile enough to cover whatever you might imagine doing… but not so over the top that you’ll go insane and start picking people off from a clock tower. I say go for it.

    Me personally I usually start at the low end to see if I even give a damned about what I’m trying to do. I don’t advise this because you always wind up spending more money in the end and it’s very difficult to sell low-end products for any kind of decent return. I started off with the DJ Control Instinct. While it still does a good many things that many more expensive controllers *don’t* do (I haven’t seen another controller yet that has both RCA and minijack outs…) it now sits in a corner. I also have a launchkey mini. By the time you finally know how to use it you realize that it wasn’t nearly enough of a controller even when you bought it and start wishing you’d at least bought a LaunchKey 25.

    This never ends.

    I applaud you decision on the S8 and I wish you well!

    in reply to: Starter Controller, DDJ-RB v/s DDJ-RR #2548051
    Swagger Lee
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    The DDJ-RB is a terrible choice for you. You’re a 45 year-old former DJ not a 16 year-old kid getting a birthday present. It should be noted that the DDJ-RB doesn’t even have a quarter-inch headphone jack… It has that little mini headphone thing. There’s nothing professional about that at all. And it’s ENTIRELY plastic. At least the DDJ-RR has some metal pretensions. And you can only control ONE-EFFECT at a time (besides the Filter) with the DDJ-RB. I have the ReLoop BeatMix 2 Mark II (and I also made a YouTube video about that and the DDJ-RB, because I had both, and decided the BeatMix 2 was superior) and it has three separate programmable effects (most entry level controllers do).

    I do believe that the DDJ-RB won’t be enough controller for you… in ANY… WAY. Especially if you still have some pro audio equipment laying around.

    Be nice to yourself and get the DDJ-RR.

    (Also, it should be noted, I created a new account on this site, since I couldn’t log in to my old one for some odd reason… and the forgot password thing wasn’t working so it took me two days, but I created this account JUST to tell you NOT to get the DDJ-RB.)

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